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Receivers aren't executing

by hawkwing · 9/18/2016

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Watching the receivers it's pretty clear that they are not performing up to their potential. I saw receivers drop easy as well as difficult passes. I saw extremely lazy route running and half effort given on plays.



This is the worst our receivers have looked in years.
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frdbtr
Yeah, I think it is about time to ditch "pillows and feathers" and get back to fire and brimstone.
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Brayden Green
Taysom is way off. He's throwing high, to wrong shoulders, waiting too long into the play until the defense catches back up to the receivers routes, behind people.. it's really bad. If taysom throws outside shoulder on that throw Juergens got laid out on its a touchdown... Instead he throws inside shoulder and makes Juergens stop breaking to the outside and come towards center, where he promptly gets laid out by the safety. In the "good throw dropped" vs "bad throw not caught" debate, I think you'll find a lot of bad throws not caught. Nate Meikle (former BYU WR standout) agrees.
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Brayden Green
Taysom is way off. He's throwing high, to wrong shoulders, waiting too long into the play until the defense catches back up to the receivers routes, behind people.. it's really bad. If taysom throws outside shoulder on that throw Juergens got laid out on its a touchdown... Instead he throws inside shoulder and makes Juergens stop breaking to the outside and come towards center, where he promptly gets laid out by the safety. In the "good throw dropped" vs "bad throw not caught" debate, I think you'll find a lot of bad throws not caught, and much fewer drops. Nate Meikle (former BYU WR standout) agrees.
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Mingjai
Brayden Green wrote:
Taysom is way off. He's throwing high, to wrong shoulders, waiting too long into the play until the defense catches back up to the receivers routes, behind people.. it's really bad. If taysom throws outside shoulder on that throw Juergens got laid out on its a touchdown... Instead he throws inside shoulder and makes Juergens stop breaking to the outside and come towards center, where he promptly gets laid out by the safety. In the "good throw dropped" vs "bad throw not caught" debate, I think you'll find a lot of bad throws not caught. Nate Meikle (former BYU WR standout) agrees.


Exactly--at this level, it's not just about hitting receivers, but it's about hitting the receivers where they can safely catch the ball. Subtle things like outside versus inside shoulder, shoulder high versus waist high versus knee high make a huge difference. When a QB leaves receivers open to big hits too many times, the receivers become focused on trying to protect themselves from big hits, and that's when things like drops, alligator arms, and broken off routes start to occur.



Did the receivers drop too many passes? Definitely. Did Taysom contribute to those drops with inaccurate throw? Definitely. Both issues need to be fixed.
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Mars
Cahoon needs to fix his problems quickly.
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snoscythe
Mars wrote:
Cahoon needs to fix his problems quickly.


....and Detmer.

....and Empey.

....and Mahe.



Clark's the only coach on that side of the ball that I don't have heartburn about.
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Mars
Mahe RBs were looking good until opposing defenses realized that Taysom can't throw. Now it's 8 in the box with two more pressing at the LOS.
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MrH51
Brayden Green wrote:
Taysom is way off. He's throwing high, to wrong shoulders, waiting too long into the play until the defense catches back up to the receivers routes, behind people.. it's really bad. If taysom throws outside shoulder on that throw Juergens got laid out on its a touchdown... Instead he throws inside shoulder and makes Juergens stop breaking to the outside and come towards center, where he promptly gets laid out by the safety. In the "good throw dropped" vs "bad throw not caught" debate, I think you'll find a lot of bad throws not caught, and much fewer drops. Nate Meikle (former BYU WR standout) agrees.




Three different times Coach Detmer called the perfect play that had the receiver open by 5 to 10 yards for touchdowns and Taysom's passes weren't anywhere near the receiver. Those three missed passes would have totally changed the outcome.
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