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2016-17 Schedule

by scott715 · 8/10/2016

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scott715
http://byucougars.com/m-basketball/byu-announces-2016-17-schedule



2016-17 BYU Basketball Schedule



Oct. 26 Wednesday Cougar Tipoff Provo, Utah

Oct. 29 Saturday Seattle Pacific Provo, Utah

Nov. 3 Thursday Westminster Provo, Utah

Nov. 11 Friday BYU-Hawaii Provo, Utah

Nov. 17 Thursday Coppin State Provo, Utah

Nov. 19 Saturday Coastal Carolina Provo, Utah

Nov. 21 Monday vs. Saint Louis* Las Vegas

Nov. 23 Wednesday vs. Alabama/Valparaiso* Las Vegas

Nov. 26 Saturday UVU Provo, Utah

Nov. 30 Wednesday vs. Utah State# Salt Lake City

Dec. 3 Saturday vs. USC^ Los Angeles

Dec. 7 Wednesday Weber State Provo, Utah

Dec. 10 Saturday Colorado Provo, Utah

Dec. 17 Saturday vs. Illinois~ Chicago

Dec. 20 Tuesday Idaho State Provo, Utah

Dec. 22 Thursday Cal-State Bakersfield Provo, Utah

Dec. 29 Thursday Santa Clara Provo, Utah

Dec. 31 Saturday at Loyola Marymount Los Angeles

Jan. 5 Thursday at Saint Mary's Moraga, California

Jan. 7 Saturday Pacific Provo, Utah

Jan. 12 Thursday San Francisco Provo, Utah

Jan. 14 Saturday at San Diego San Diego

Jan. 19 Thursday Pepperdine Provo, Utah

Jan. 21 Saturday at Pacific Stockton, California

Jan. 26 Thursday at Santa Clara Santa Clara, California

Jan. 28 Saturday Loyola Marymount Provo, Utah

Feb. 2 Thursday Gonzaga Provo, Utah

Feb. 4 Saturday Portland Provo, Utah

Feb. 9 Thursday at Pepperdine Malibu, California

Feb. 11 Saturday at San Francisco San Francisco, California

Feb. 16 Thursday San Diego Provo, Utah

Feb. 18 Saturday Saint Mary's Provo, Utah

Feb. 23 Thursday at Portland Portland, Oregon

Feb. 25 Saturday at Gonzaga Spokane, Washington

* MGM Grand Main Event

# at Vivint Smart Home Arena

^ Basketball Hall of Fame's 2016 Hoophall LA at the Staples Center

~ Inaugural State Farm Chicago Legends at the United Center
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Fido
Wow...only 1 game to the east (vs Illinois @ the United Center - Chicago) and no OOC road games. Just 8 home games and 5 neutral games (13 OOC).
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BlueK
Doesn't appear to be that strong on the surface, although I think some of the teams on there are supposed to be improved over last year. USC is thought to be a top 25 level team this season. Colorado is supposed to be pretty good. Illinois, Alabama should be a little better. Valpo is well coached and should be pretty good again.



BYU is going to be better with Mika back and Dastrup together adding some additional depth, talent and size to the frontcourt that we haven't had in years. Childs is getting rave reviews by those watching the players scrimmage together. Davis is also back. With a big like Mika playing with him he will be more effective than last year. I think our bigs as a unit will be very noticeably better, and I don't think our guards, especially with the late addition of LJ Rose, the addition of TJ, Emery back even better than last year because of the full off-season to get ready, along with Bryant being eligible we won't lose a step on that side. I think this team will be really good and will surprise anyone who hasn't been paying very close attention.
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Mars
BlueK wrote:
BYU is going to be better with Mika back and Dastrup together adding some additional depth, talent and size to the frontcourt that we haven't had in years.



I think this team will be really good and will surprise anyone who hasn't been paying very close attention.

I hope so. The team obviously lost some very talented players, as they did the year before (which made the team worse that time, and may again this time).
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BlueK
This blogger isn't writing as a BYU fan but seems to have done a lot more research than your typical non-BYU connected writer because he knows who is coming off of missions and how they were rated coming out of HS. I really do think many of us are going to be surprised.



https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/2016-NCAA-Basketball-Preseason-Top-20
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byufan4ever
Wait, Seljaas isn't going on a mission? I didn't think we had him this season??
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byufan4ever
3 WCC teams in his top 20, wow!
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BlueK
byufan4ever wrote:
3 WCC teams in his top 20, wow!


Gonzaga not a surprise. St. Mary's gets everyone back from a team that won a lot of games last year. They've gotten a lot of positive pre-season press.
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BlueK
byufan4ever wrote:
Wait, Seljaas isn't going on a mission? I didn't think we had him this season??


He is on a mission. He'd know that if he were a BYU fan. But what I think is interesting is how he knows about players like MIka and the others and how good they were coming out of HS.
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SpiffCoug
This is a good schedule for a fairly young team, but it's going to hurt the RPI. IIRC, in the RPI formula home games count for less than neutral games which count for less than road games.



Something like a home win is counted as .75 wins, a neutral win is 1 win and a road win is 1.25 wins. So BYU is going to have a fairly middling RPI this year, even with a good record.



But the schedule could help the team gain confidence going into conference play and into next year and the years after.
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BlueK
there are a lot of factors in play. A team's rpi doesn't mean nearly as much to the committee on its own as does the rpi's of the teams that team beats. And usually a team's own rpi is going to be good if they hardly ever lose. There isn't much room for error in this schedule, but if BYU is intrinsically better, then I don't think it's going to matter because they will win. Teams like USC and Colorado, possibly Alabama and for sure Gonzaga and SMC can give us enough good wins if we can win most of those. But yeah, this isn't a schedule for "tricking" the committee into putting you into the tournament. I just think the team is going to be good enough on its own to not need to have a way to fool the committee this year, if you know what I'm saying.
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Gunk
It's a schedule that rewards winning, just like last year's schedule. We'll need a 10+ win streak to get noticed. Can't lose two in a row and we'll obviously need to go deep into the WCC tourney. Will be harder this year between Gonzaga & SMC.
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byufan4ever
I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't make the big dance. Two years in a row of not making it should put the coach on the hot seat.
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byufan4ever wrote:
I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't make the big dance. Two years in a row of not making it should put the coach on the hot seat.

I can not imagine this team of talent not making the dance. It would be a terribly disappointing year. Honestly I think this level of talent, even though young, should win the WCC tournament, and if not will be a little disappointed.
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BlueK
byufan4ever wrote:
I'll be extremely disappointed if we don't make the big dance. Two years in a row of not making it should put the coach on the hot seat.


This team will easily make the tournament. Funny though because if they didn't, it would mean only 3 of Rose's 11 teams didn't make it. Fans have really short memories. Even so, this team has 6 ESPN top 100 recruits on it. We've never seen anything remotely approaching that at BYU in terms of pure talent. People are going to be surprised. BYU will absolutely obliterate this schedule. It will just be a month or so into the season before some of the more casual fans notice. I just hope there are some decent teams on it when all is said and done. We know Gonzaga and SMC will be good teams and we know we've beaten both of them before, so we just need to get our share of wins over them and the non-conference and we'll be fine.
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BlueK
BYU will now open the season against Princeton, who was a top 40 rpi team last year and has all their key players back. this is a great late upgrade to the schedule. It will be played Nov. 14th when they previously had BYU-Hawaii scheduled to open the regular season. BYU-H will instead visit Provo Nov. 9th and will now be an exhibition game, replacing Westminster who will play BYU next year. Nice work Rose and co.
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Gunk
It's a schedule, like last year's, that rewards winning. We pull off a couple 10-win streaks and we'll get some love.



We'll need 27 wins at least to get an at-large bid.
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BlueK
with 27 or more wins BYU gets in easily, not just barely. You can talk about their 26 wins last year, but that' includes 3 from the NIT, so 27 going into selection Sunday is actually four more than last year.
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BlueK
Also, the schedule doesn't have elites on it other than Gonzaga, but that's not really that important as long as there are enough good, tournament worthy teams on it and we can win our share of those. If you look at the CBS way too early projection which doesn't include BYU in the field, it does include several of BYU's opponents, which shows that we'll have more than enough opportunities to make a mark by beating teams that are both good and beatable. Yes, we will have to win most of them, but I think this team will. We will have an exciting team with the guys coming off missions and the players coming back and the new transfers. Six top-100 players on the same team is something we have never seen before. The talent upgrade this season will be noticeable.



http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/duke-kentucky-villanova-and-kansas-are-no-1-seeds-in-way-too-early-bracketology/



Projected in the field by CBS:

Princeton

Valparaiso

USC

Weber State

St. Mary's

Gonzaga



Among those not listed who may have a decent shot of making the field is Colorado. By the way, Utah didn't make the CBS projection.



Dropping non-D1 BYU-H and replacing them with 22-7, RPI-top 40 Princeton was a major last-minute scheduling coup by BYU that the more casual fan probably won't realize the significance of, but which will help BYU's resume.
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BlueK
Just announced that the BYU/Princeton game will open the 2016 ESPN Tip-off marathon and will be shown on ESPN2. It will be immediately followed by another interesting game, SDSU at Gonzaga.
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