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Let's assume that Big12 makes a deal

by scott715 · 7/31/2016

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scott715
but before we sign, the PAC12 offers us. Would BYU take the PAC offer? You have a closer fit, more stability, history and the Utah rival to play. But having given our word to join Big12. Deals sometime fall through so their that risk if you say no to PAC.
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mormonrasta
scott715 wrote:
but before we sign, the PAC12 offers us. Would BYU take the PAC offer? You have a closer fit, more stability, history and the Utah rival to play. But having given our word to join Big12. Deals sometime fall through so their that risk if you say no to PAC.


Absolutely we would join the Pac. Better academics, better locations, better access to alumni, a conference that has been around for 100 years. It would be a no brainier.
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Stirfry
Who has a longer grant of rights deal? A lot of speculation is the big12 is just going to use up any goodwill with the networks and use the extra revenue loophole until the contract is up and then it'll break apart. I'd probably sign with who has the longer grant of rights between usc/UCLA/Oregon versus Texas/Oklahoma.



Until Texas is fully invested the big12 will be on shaky ground and Texas has no reason to be fully invested.
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Stirfry
And with that said- I'd rather not be in the pac. Culturally it would be terrible.
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SkystheLimit
Let's get this straight. The PAC 12 is NOT going to invite us, so this whole discussion is moot.
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Schmoe
Nope. I'm not a fan of religious bigotry and the move would not show good faith in us--if they wanted us, they had the chance to take us a few years back and balked.
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Mars
Pac-14 all the way.
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BOID
I agree, the PAC's religious bigotry is most distasteful. Especially so when they must lie to cover it up. Really, does anyone have recollection of scientific research being a criterion for football membership, prior to the PAC 10's lame use of it as an excuse? Consider that nearly half of their membership does not meet that requirement any more than BYU does.



Having said that, who really knows what previous prejudices the PAC might give up to prevent a Big 12 BYU from dominating the whole Rocky Mountain market, over the top of their new "Red Tail Hawk" member? They are likely to be happy to see BYU continue to be excluded as long as geography and religion excludes the Cougars. But maybe not, if another P5 conference threatens their new acquisition. Who doubts that a Big 12 BYU would dominate Utah for TV and for recruits? And not just in the State of Utah, but possibly California as well? And think of how much more popular BYU would become in Arizona and Colorado. Remember that only Stanford and Cal/Berkely had been saying no to the Cougars. Perhaps they could be pressured by the others. But even then the new Red Tails might vote no, out of fear.



The opportunity for conquest over PAC territory must be intriguing to Bowlsby, if not the Big 12 presidents. You would think that these scenarios would put BYU in the driver's seat here, but again, who knows?



If I may use a cliche: Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
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BroncoBot
Schmoe wrote:
...if they wanted us, they had the chance to take us a few years back and balked.

The Big Xii had that same opportunity, no?
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BOID
BroncoBot wrote:
...if they wanted us, they had the chance to take us a few years back and balked.

The Big Xii had that same opportunity, no?


True. The Big 12 could very easily snub us too. Can't tell from the coaches' poll, 'cause coaches don't usually think politically, while presidents do. Still, the coaches poll does reveal a certain level of respect.
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Schmoe
BroncoBot wrote:
...if they wanted us, they had the chance to take us a few years back and balked.

The Big Xii had that same opportunity, no?


True, but both programs they took were good programs (unlike the PAC), they didn't break up a historic rivalry, and none of it seems to be motivated by ideological hatred for what BYU stands for.
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SenorCougar
Take the 1st offer and be grateful...
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