Would BYU Have Won the PAC-10 in 2009?

I'd like our chances against anyone in the PAC-10 this year. If we had Oregon at home I'd say the chances of victory were 80%. While I'm not sure we'd have run the table in the PAC this year, I DO think we'd have been in the mix in late November.

I won't guess as to running the table in the Pac-10. But as to winning it? BYU and TCU would have. Utah might have as well - don't forget that they barely lost to Oregon in Autzen. On a neutral field, that's anyone's game. Utah might even come out of the Pac-10 this year with one loss and win it.

Since we didnt win the MWC than I dont think we could have won the PAC-10.



Interesting thought though, I dont think there is any team that we could not compete with in the PAC-10 and have a shot to win.



We have the talent, but seem to have a let down game (or two or three) every year. If we let down in PAC-10 play like we did against New Mexico, we lose that game.

That's the thing, you wouldn't have to run the table to have a shot to win the title this year. We could have lost two conference games and still have had a chance to win it on the last week. I think BYU could have gone 7-2 in the PAC-10 this year.

westidahocougar wrote:
Since we didnt win the MWC than I dont think we could have won the PAC-10.

Yeah, that makes no sense. TCU would still be in the Pac10.

westidahocougar wrote:
Since we didnt win the MWC than I dont think we could have won the PAC-10.

Yeah, because Oregon is a much better team than TCU...oh no? Well then, Cal is better than Utah...oh wait, no? Well Stanford is better than Oklahoma, right? Not them, either? Well Oregon State is better than UNLV...ok, that one's true, but just barely. So, we have a two-loss cushion while playing worse competition in the top end of the conference (the only in-conf teams we've lost to in the past four years). I'd say we'd have a REALLY good chance of coming away with a Rose Bowl bid.

Yes

Probably not.



WSU- BYU beats anytime anywhere.

UCLA- BYU beats anytime anywhere

ASU- BYU beats anytime anywhere

OSU- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Probably wins in Corvallis.

UW- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Seattle unlikely

Cal- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Berkeley unlikely

Stanford- Toss up in either Provo or Palo Alto.

USC- Toss up in either Provo or LA

Arizona- BYU probably wins in Provo. No chance in Tucson

Oregon- Probably wins in Provo. No chance in Eugene.



If BYU played Oregon, Arizona, Cal, and UW at home then they would have a great chance of winning the Pac-10 this year with 1 or 2 losses.

mormonrasta wrote:
Probably not.



WSU- BYU beats anytime anywhere.

UCLA- BYU beats anytime anywhere

ASU- BYU beats anytime anywhere

OSU- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Probably wins in Corvallis.

UW- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Seattle unlikely

Cal- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Berkeley unlikely

Stanford- Toss up in either Provo or Palo Alto.

USC- Toss up in either Provo or LA

Arizona- BYU probably wins in Provo. No chance in Tucson

Oregon- Probably wins in Provo. No chance in Eugene.



If BYU played Oregon, Arizona, Cal, and UW at home then they would have a great chance of winning the Pac-10 this year with 1 or 2 losses.

Why no chance @ Ore or AZ? Ore barely beat Ut at home when Utah was still struggling to get its O settled and usually gets off to a slow start. Last year they struggled early and pummeled Alabama. I would think a better than 50% chance we win at Ore.

As for AZ., they barely beat C. Mich and had an unimpressive win against a weak Big Sky team (lead 17-10 half). Had home wins vs Stan, UCLA, and WA st (the WA team that didn't win a conf game and had only one win). And to cap the season got embarassed by Neb in the bowl. I give BYU an 80% chance of victory meaning we play 10 there this season we win at least 8 of them.



TCU no doubt wins, but personally I think they would have won every conf save the SEC with that being debatable.

Utah, probably not but would have been in the mix.

BYU, I think very likely could have won it. Would they have, who knows but if they played like they did against OK and OSU, they walk away with it (provided TCU was not in the conf too).

I didn't give BYU any chance in Arlington either, but they did it. They did stub their toe against FSU, but then so did Oregon against Stanford. So, I believe BYU could have won the PAC-10 this season, especially if they were one of the ten teams and Oregon was on the outside looking in. ;)

rasta,I've enjoyed your posts in the past and the insight you seem able to provide on your homegrown conference PAC-10,but i really think your off-base on your analysis of our chances in the PAC-10 this year.to say that we have "no chance "with your Wildcats in Tucson after watching the debacle vs. Nebraska is real hubris.also,the idea that we also have similar chance vs. UW and Cal ie. little to no chance acc.to you,is shortsighted.Most of these teams have been exposed in the post season as being grossly overranked and one has to have blinders on,dispensed by the BCS hierarchy,to not see that.Now granted we may not have the same defense that Nebraska has,but the Arizona team i saw that night was no powerhouse,and we've almost beaten Arizona in their place when they were better and we were worse.please explain your position,if you can.

westidahocougar wrote:
Since we didnt win the MWC than I dont think we could have won the PAC-10.



Interesting thought though, I dont think there is any team that we could not compete with in the PAC-10 and have a shot to win.



We have the talent, but seem to have a let down game (or two or three) every year. If we let down in PAC-10 play like we did against New Mexico, we lose that game.

That's obviously bull, the PAC-10 might have "slightly" more depth, but the MWC is a better conference overall, just look at how the four ranked PAC-10 teams did in the bowl season...

mormonrasta wrote:
Probably not.



WSU- BYU beats anytime anywhere.

UCLA- BYU beats anytime anywhere

ASU- BYU beats anytime anywhere

OSU- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Probably wins in Corvallis.

UW- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Seattle unlikely

Cal- BYU certainly wins in Provo. Winning in Berkeley unlikely

Stanford- Toss up in either Provo or Palo Alto.

USC- Toss up in either Provo or LA

Arizona- BYU probably wins in Provo. No chance in Tucson

Oregon- Probably wins in Provo. No chance in Eugene.



If BYU played Oregon, Arizona, Cal, and UW at home then they would have a great chance of winning the Pac-10 this year with 1 or 2 losses.

apparently arizona keeps their offense stored in a safe place in tuscon and they only let it out for home games... they're not even allowed out for bowl games ;)



I'd like to think we could win in Tuscon, it's not like they're some home team juggernaut.

And the pukes almost won in Eugene. So I don't think one could say that there's "no chance in Eugene" for the Cougars.



Also BYU has already won in Seattle and I didn't realize that Cal had such a strong home advantage. It seems like they lose a game or two in Berkley every year.



BYU may not have gone undefeated in the Pac-10 this year (TCU most certainly would have) but then, none of the Pac-10 teams did either so BYU still could have easily been in the hunt for the Pac-10 title this year.