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Dodd with more expansion fodder.

by Commoner · 3/1/2016

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Synopsis:



BYUtv: "could easily be folded into the Big 12's television package, CBS Sports has learned."



Cincy: Has hired a firm with Big past 12 ties (not necessarily an advantage) to determine the chances of Cincy joining the Big 12.



Expansion: The focus may be shifting away from expansion, for the moment, and toward a CCG.



The rest of the article rehashes what has been written for several years.



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BYULV
So explain to me why BYUTv is a problem at all to Big12 admission? If the Big12 TV package includes a BYU game then great, if they don't, let us put it on BYUTV. It's not like the longhorn network that needs to be bouyed up by ESPN $ at the expense of Big12 programming. Just seems like BYUTV would be an advantage to expansion involving BYU rather than a hurdle.
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BYULV wrote:
So explain to me why BYUTv is a problem at all to Big12 admission? If the Big12 TV package includes a BYU game then great, if they don't, let us put it on BYUTV.

If you paid to have the rights to broadcast Big12 games the price you paid considered there would be another network showing a Big12 game. You'd get approx 50% of the Big12 viewership during a time slot. You'd be upset if the Big12 now aired a 3rd game at that time and reduced your viewership to possibly 33% of big12 fans. You paid expecting to compete with only one other game at a time.



The Big12 should like it in itself but their television partners wouldn't. Therefore they wouldn't like it.



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Stirfry wrote:
So explain to me why BYUTv is a problem at all to Big12 admission? If the Big12 TV package includes a BYU game then great, if they don't, let us put it on BYUTV.

If you paid to have the rights to broadcast Big12 games the price you paid considered there would be another network showing a Big12 game. You'd get approx 50% of the Big12 viewership during a time slot. You'd be upset if the Big12 now aired a 3rd game at that time and reduced your viewership to possibly 33% of big12 fans. You paid expecting to compete with only one other game at a time.



The Big12 should like it in itself but their television partners wouldn't. Therefore they wouldn't like it.


BYUTV is not an issue at all. As Tom Holmoe stated, it's an advantage if anything.



The media don't do their homework and equate it to the Longhorn network and other conference sports networks, not realizing that BYUTV is an educational and public service channel (this is why BYUTV is in 60 million homes). BYU sports are a very small part of BYUTV's airtime and programming, even during football and basketball seasons.



BYU would easily and quickly grant to the Big 12 full access to BYU sports. In fact, BYUTV would make access to BYU sports easier and less expensive than any other Big 12 school; if the Big 12 so desires, BYUTV has the facilities and personnel to put together football, basketball, volleyball, and other sports productions and send the feed to the Big 12 to broadcast on their network. That's content for the Big 12 network at a savings.



Also, if the Big 12 does create its own conference TV network, it is likely to partner with ESPN or FOX. The B1G Network is owned 51% by FOX and the SEC Network is owned 51% by ESPN. Only the PAC owns 100% of their network and the PAC Network has struggled with distribution and controlling production costs.



And, in the B1G, SEC, and PAC, virtually every football game is broadcast either through one of their media partners (Tiers 1 and 2 on ABC, CBS, FOX and ESPN/2 and FS1) or on the conference TV network (Tier 3 inventory).



If the Big 12 can figure out its Texas/Longhorn network issues and get a conference network, expect the Big 12 to operate in similar fashion with Tier 1 and 2 broadcast per the ESPN/FOX media deal and Tier 3 inventory broadcast on the Big 12 Network.



BYUTV will continue as an educational and public service channel (Studio C, Story Trek, American Ride, Granite Flats, etc.) with little BYU sports other than inventory not wanted by the Big 12 and BYU Sports Nation, After Further Review, Inside BYU Football, etc.
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scott715
i think a Big12 network would pick up our BYU Sports Nation, After Further Review, Inside BYU Football shows.
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BYULV
It just seems like BYUTV has a lot more to offer the B12 and a B12 network than any other school has to bring to the table at this point, including current conference members (except may texas - but from stories of the $$$ losses from the longhorn network, maybe BYU and BYUTV bring more to the table than even Tx).
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scott715 wrote:
i think a Big12 network would pick up our BYU Sports Nation, After Further Review, Inside BYU Football shows.


That could help the Big 12 network get better coverage and carriage fees in many West Coast markets and help to fill 10pm ET and later time slots.
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scott715
Every school does some show about their sports program. Remember in the MWC when CSU did one of their basketball coach who since left for greener pasters?
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scott715 wrote:
Every school does some show about their sports program. Remember in the MWC when CSU did one of their basketball coach who since left for greener pasters?


I remember the CSU show, but I believe that was an exception scenario, not the rule.

I've never heard of or seen any such program related to Utah St., Wyoming, Nevada, Air Force, New Mexico, etc. etc., let alone two or three weekly shows with in-depth breakdown of specific plays as we enjoy with BYU.



The reason Inside BYU, After Further Review, and BYU Sports Nation could be so great for the Big 12 Network is that BYU can legitimately get viewers at 10pm and 11pm ET (8/9pm Mountain; 7/8pm Pacific). Cincinnati, UConn, Memphis, and Houston aren't going to deliver that. Most of the existing Big 12 schools can't deliver that.
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