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Sitake Completes Staff

by snoscythe · 2/17/2016

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bamf3000
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.
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SpiffCoug
bamf3000 wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.

It does make you wonder.
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Guest
Can someone post the total counts of each ethnicity on the FB staff?
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SenorCougar
bamf3000 wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.
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SpiffCoug
Kalani Sitake - Head Coach - Polynesian

Ty Detmer - Offensive Coordinator - White/Texan

Ilaisa Tuiaki - Defensive Coordinator - Polynesian

Ed Lamb - As't Head Coach, ST Coordinator - White/San Fran-San Jose CA area

Ben Cahoon - WR Coach - White/Orem

Steve Clark - TE Coach - White/Provo

Mike Empey - OL Coach - White/Pocatello

Jenaro Gilford - DB Coach - Black/Southern California

Steve Kaufusi - DL Coach - Polynesian

Reno Maeh - RB Coach - Polynesian

Nu'u Tafisi - S&C Coach - Polynesian

Russell Tialavea - Director Football Ops - Polynesian

Tevita Ofahengaue - Director Recruiting - Polynesian

Jack Damuni - Director Player Personnel - Polynesian



So 14 on staff, 8 are Polynesian. Among actual coaches, the ratio is 4 of 10.
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Great, thanks.
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snoscythe
According to the "Tysman Rap", it's uncertain whether or not Ty Detmer is Polynesian.
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Guest
snoscythe wrote:
According to the "Tysman Rap", it's uncertain whether or not Ty Detmer is Polynesian.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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bamf3000
SenorCougar wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?
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Schmoe
bamf3000 wrote:
bamf3000 wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Because it appears to show an unusual criteria for hiring that may ignore more important factors like experience and talent.
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bamf3000
Schmoe wrote:
SenorCougar wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Because it appears to show an unusual criteria for hiring that may ignore more important factors like experience and talent.


How someone could assume that Sitaki is doing that, sure. But that wasnt the statement, wasnt the question, and wasnt asked to you.



I specifically said I didn't care if they are polynesian, and Senorcougar said he cares that they are polynesian. Which speaks volumes of being a bigot and racist if you have any problem with any of the hires being polynesian.



Now if I said I didn't care that he was hiring polys over other experienced candidates, I would understand one caring about that. Which is why I asked him specifically why he cared about them being Polynesian, so we could get clarity on what he cares about.
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Schmoe
bamf3000 wrote:
bamf3000 wrote:
bamf3000 wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Because it appears to show an unusual criteria for hiring that may ignore more important factors like experience and talent.


How someone could assume that Sitaki is doing that, sure. But that wasnt the statement, wasnt the question, and wasnt asked to you.



I specifically said I didn't care if they are polynesian, and Senorcougar said he cares that they are polynesian. Which speaks volumes of being a bigot and racist if you have any problem with any of the hires being polynesian.



Now if I said I didn't care that he was hiring polys over other experienced candidates, I would understand one caring about that. Which is why I asked him specifically why he cared about them being Polynesian, so we could get clarity on what he cares about.

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Seriously, you think that he has a problem with them just because they're Polynesian? You don't give him any benefit of the doubt that there's probably a reason behind it, VERY likely the one that I brought up? :roll:
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SenorCougar
bamf3000 wrote:
bamf3000 wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Ethnicity is more important to you than qualifications. WOW...



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bamf3000
Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
SenorCougar wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Because it appears to show an unusual criteria for hiring that may ignore more important factors like experience and talent.


How someone could assume that Sitaki is doing that, sure. But that wasnt the statement, wasnt the question, and wasnt asked to you.



I specifically said I didn't care if they are polynesian, and Senorcougar said he cares that they are polynesian. Which speaks volumes of being a bigot and racist if you have any problem with any of the hires being polynesian.



Now if I said I didn't care that he was hiring polys over other experienced candidates, I would understand one caring about that. Which is why I asked him specifically why he cared about them being Polynesian, so we could get clarity on what he cares about.

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Seriously, you think that he has a problem with them just because they're Polynesian? You don't give him any benefit of the doubt that there's probably a reason behind it, VERY likely the one that I brought up? :roll:


I'm going to chalk this response up to you replying late at night, as no one above a 5th grade reading level could possibly think I jumped to conclusions. I very clearly stated that I asked the question, to get clarity on what he cared about, and said IF someone had a problem with them being poly, they were racist and bigoted
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bamf3000
SenorCougar wrote:
SenorCougar wrote:
I couldnt care less that they are Polynesian, but I also wonder if KS is picking his staff based on ethnicity first, and experience/skill set second.


Maybe you don't care, but I do.


Why would you care what ethnicity any of the coaches are?


Ethnicity is more important to you than qualifications. WOW...



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I'll refer you to the above post, no one is this dumb...
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Schmoe
bamf3000 wrote:

I specifically said I didn't care if they are polynesian, and Senorcougar said he cares that they are polynesian. Which speaks volumes of being a bigot and racist if you have any problem with any of the hires being polynesian.


This shows that you said he was a racist and a bigot for having a problem with any of the hires being Polynesian. Nowhere do you state that "IF" it's because of a legit concern, then it's understandable (in fact, you said that IF anyone has ANY PROBLEM with the hires being Polynesian, then they are a bigot and racist). Perhaps it's not reading skills, but writing skills that could use some work.
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BroncoBot
Maybe I'm not following the conversation correctly, but it appears the 3 of you are all saying the same thing?



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bamf3000
Schmoe wrote:

I specifically said I didn't care if they are polynesian, and Senorcougar said he cares that they are polynesian. Which speaks volumes of being a bigot and racist if you have any problem with any of the hires being polynesian.


This shows that you said he was a racist and a bigot for having a problem with any of the hires being Polynesian. Nowhere do you state that "IF" it's because of a legit concern, then it's understandable (in fact, you said that IF anyone has ANY PROBLEM with the hires being Polynesian, then they are a bigot and racist). Perhaps it's not reading skills, but writing skills that could use some work.


Sure, if you want to select portions of a conversation and take them out of context. And I'll also stand by that if anyone has a problem with them being polynesian, they are a racist and a bigot. If they said the same thing I did, where I wondered if KS was picking them for being polynesian first and skill/experience second that is completely different.



I was very clear on that point in the following paragraph that you conveniently left out. I'm done arguing about this. Them being poly or not is irrelevant.
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SpiffCoug
The only hire I question is that of Reno Mahe. I believe he is woefully under-qualified and from what I have seen so far also appears to be un-serious about his new position as well.



I believe he was hired for more his personality and to help with recruiting than his knowledge of the Xs and Ox of coaching the position.



I do not believe someone with his experience would have been hired had he not a personal and racial connection to the head coach
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