Taysom Hill or Tanner Mangum?

So Ben Criddle's show today was all about if Taysom Hill is your guy or if Tanner Mangum is the focus of the preparation going into spring practice. But word is this:


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Hill will not be cleared for spring ball and might not be ready for August 1? I don't know how you can prepare for him to be your QB then.



Another point is if he has been talking to Virginia and Michigan as has been said, he would have had to ask for a release and been given permission to talk to other programs since he is still on scholarship and not graduated.



I don't think Taysom works out at BYU--they need to prep for Mangum to be your #1 and if Hill is still around in the fall, great. If not, they aren't stuck.

Yep, if Taysom can't fully participate in spring ball you have to go through spring with Tanner as the No. 1 QB. Hopefully he can participate in non-contact drills as that would probably allow him to remain in the running for the starter.



But if he's not there at all, I don't see how you can fully incorporate him. He'll find himself even further behind.



Detmer has also said they'd prefer to know what he plans before spring ball.

Please clarify... A coach or another school cannot speak with a student athlete at another school. Does that stipulation also apply to the athlete? Or can he initiate communication, but is restricted regarding any transfer without a release?



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Fido wrote:
So Ben Criddle's show today was all about if Taysom Hill is your guy or if Tanner Mangum is the focus of the preparation going into spring practice. But word is this:


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Hill will not be cleared for spring ball and might not be ready for August 1? I don't know how you can prepare for him to be your QB then.



Another point is if he has been talking to Virginia and Michigan as has been said, he would have had to ask for a release and been given permission to talk to other programs since he is still on scholarship and not graduated.



I don't think Taysom works out at BYU--they need to prep for Mangum to be your #1 and if Hill is still around in the fall, great. If not, they aren't stuck.

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Per Criddle, if Hill is under scholarship to BYU and has not graduated (he hasn't), he can only talk with Jason Beck (Virginia), or Jim Harbaugh (Michigan) or any other college coach about a transfer if he has requested a release and has permission to talk to them from BYU.



Whether or not the twitter account is real, if Taysom is not able to go in the spring you have to act like he won't be available and get Mangum, Hodge, etc. ready. There has been no indication what kind of timeline Taysom Hill has for recovery from his injury and that worries me greatly.



At some point Taysom is the player he is now--not the player he once was or could have been. It's sad but true.

Fido wrote:



At some point Taysom is the player he is now--not the player he once was or could have been. It's sad but true.

Why then would BYU care?

We have a new staff that will be implementing a new offense. If Hill isn't ready to go in time for Spring, IMO he shouldn't be the #1 QB. We'll need as much time as possible to get ready. Practicing with one QB and then throwing in a new one a month before the season starts is a bad move. I hope the staff isn't even considering it.



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I would make Taysom earn the job. Tanner earned the right to be starter. If Taysom can get healthy and outplay Tanner, then great. But he has lost the right to the starting spot. He can't be relied on at the quarterback position as the leader of your offense and team.

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We have a new staff that will be implementing a new offense. If Hill isn't ready to go in time for Spring, IMO he shouldn't be the #1 QB. We'll need as much time as possible to get ready. Practicing with one QB and then throwing in a new one a month before the season starts is a bad move. I hope the staff isn't even considering it.



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Even more reason to let him talk with other teams. He will graduate in two months anyway, right? I think Michigan or Stanford could use his talents best. Both would provide him better exposure with a high talent level to surruond him. Stanford's education would be an additional plus. Rejection = Greater Opportunity. Good for Taysom.



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We have a new staff that will be implementing a new offense. If Hill isn't ready to go in time for Spring, IMO he shouldn't be the #1 QB. We'll need as much time as possible to get ready. Practicing with one QB and then throwing in a new one a month before the season starts is a bad move. I hope the staff isn't even considering it.



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Even more reason to let him talk with other teams. He will graduate in two months anyway, right? I think Michigan or Stanford could use his talents best. Both would provide him better exposure with a high talent level to surruond him. Stanford's education would be an additional plus. Rejection = Greater Opportunity. Good for Taysom.



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If we could freeze Tanner in time I'd still prefer taysom but we can't. I'd rather have taysom but I'm leaning more towards Tanner. If taysom can leverage football into a Stanford graduate degree he should do it. Him and Chuckie Keyton will go down together as the greatest coulda shoulda woulda QBs in the state. It sucks



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I agree, we should allow the guy who is/was the best player on the field in every game he played in healthy to just walk and wish him well. :whistle: I agree with Brayden, if he is healthy and is playing better than Tanner, he is our guy. IMO, he will not be healthy, his days as a football player are over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47xD28vW5T0&rel=0&t=0



Steve's comments on TH at 4 minute mark.

You know what is disappointing about Hill? No one will ever know how good he could have been. Even if he comes back for his Senior season and plays well, we don't know how much better he could have been if he was able to work on his game instead of rehabbing once again during the off season.



If you think about how much better he could have been if his off seasons were spent practicing and refining his game. The only off season he had injury free was summer of 2014 and he showed in he first 5 games he was a better passing QB until again injury shut him down for the year.



I can only imagine what kind of QB he could have been because right now he is a freak athlete and I can't fathom what he could have done if his off seasons were devoted to improving his game instead of healing his body.



Regardless what happens with him this year, I have enjoyed watching every second he has played.