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Assistant Coaches?

by Mars · 12/21/2015

Mars

12/21/2015, 6:43:36 AM

Current Coaches (maybe?):

Kalani Sitake

BYU Head Coach 2015-

Oregon State Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator 2015

Utah Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator 2012-2014

Utah Defensive Coordinator 2009-2011

Utah Linebackers Coach 2005-2008

Southern Utah Tight Ends Coach, Offensive Line Coach 2004

Southern Utah Running Backs Coach, Tight Ends Coach 2003

BYU Graduate Assistant 2002

Eastern Arizona Defensive Backs Coach, Special Teams Coach 2001

Cincinatti Bengals Full Back 2001

BYU Full Back 1994, 1997-2000

Steve Kaufusi

BYU Defensive Line Coach 2002-2015

Utah Defensive Ends Coach 1997-2001

Utah Defensive Line Coach 1995-1996

Utah Graduate Assistant 1994

Philadelphia Eagle Defensive End 1989-1990

BYU Defensive End 1985-1987

Dixie College Defensive End 1984

Paul Tidwell

BYU Inside Linebackers Coach 2011-2015

BYU Inside Linebackers Coach, Recruiting Coordinator 2005-2010

BYU Special Team Coordinator 2004

BYU Running Backs Coach/Special Teams Coordinator 2002-2003

BYU Running Backs Coach/Recruiting Coordinator 2000-2001

Louisiana Tech Tight Ends Coach, Special Teams Coach 1999-2000

Louisiana Tech Defensive Backs Coach 1998

Eastern Arizona Head Coach 1995-1997

Snow College Head Coach 1988-1994

Snow College Defensive Coordinator 1984-1987

North Sanpete (Mt. Pleasant, UT) High School Head Coach 1979-1983

Richfield (UT) High School Head Coach, 1978

Utah State Full Back 1973-1976

Guy Holliday

BYU Wide Receivers Coach 2013-2015

UTEP Wide Receivers Coach, Recruiting Coordinator 2008-2012

Cornell Wide Receivers Coach 2007

Mississippi State Wide Receivers Coach 2003-2006

Western Michigan Wide Receivers Coach 2001-2002

Western Michigan Tight Ends Coach 2000

Alabama State Offensive Coordinator, Wide Receivers Coach 1998-1999

Alabama State Offensive Coordinator, Wide Receivers Coach, Quarterback Coach 1995

Tuskegee State Offensive Coordinator, Running Backs Coach 1992-1994

Clark-Atlanta Running Backs Coach 1991

Justin Anderson

BYU Player Personnel Director, Recruiting Coordinator 2015-

Nicholls State Assistant Football Coach, Passing Game Coordinator, NFL Liaison, Wide Receivers Coach, Tight Ends Coach 2010-2015

BYU Offensive Line Graduate Assistant 2009-2010

BYU Defensive Line Intern 2008-2009

Harmony (St. Coud, FL) High School Offensive Coordinator 2004-2007

BYU Athlete 2000-2002

Ricks College Athlete 1995, 1998-1999

Possible new hires, job/position changes:

OC: Dennis Simmons (WSU WRs, 2 years). Steve Clark (Weber State OC 2 years, SUU HC 6 years). Jeff Grimes (LSU OL/RBs, 2 years). Dan Hawkins. Ty Detmer. Norm Chow. Gary Crowton (SUU OC 2 years, OSU O specialist). Guy Holliday. Aaron Roderick (Utah Co-OC). Brandon Doman. Steve Sarkisian.

OL: Steve Clark. Scott Brumfield (Dixie State HC, 6 years). Louis Wong (Mtn View HS HC, 3 years). Ben Archibald. John Tait. Deuce Lutui. Edwin Mulitalo.

RBs: Joe Dupaix (also been OC, coached QBs, WRs; 15 years coaching experience). Fui Vakapuna. Naufahu Tahi. Reno Mahe. Vai Sikahema. Guy Holliday. Paul Tidwell. Spencer Larsen. Mike Rigell.

QBs: Ty Detmer. Steve Clark. Mike Chico Canales (North Texas OC, 6 years). John Beck. Max Hall. Lyle Moevao (OSU). Brandon Doman. Robbie Bosco. Guy Holliday. Brett Salisbury.

TEs: Patrick Higgins (UTEP OC). Andrew George. Ben Cahoon. Eric Drage. Chad Lewis. Vic So'oto. J.D. Brookhart. Brandon Manumaleuna. Guy Holliday. Paul Tidwell. Justin Anderson. Jonny Harline. Itula Mili. Todd Heap.

DC: DeWayne Walker (Jaguars DC). Jay Hill (Weber State HC, 2 years). Ed Lamb (SUU HC, 8 years). Paul Tidwell. John Neal (13 seasons as DB coach at Oregon). Chad Kauha'aha'a (OSU DL). Morgan Scalley.

DBs: Todd Bradford (Maryland DC). Brian Mitchell (WVU DBs, 3 years). Casey Mazzotta (Mt. San Jacinto HC, 9 years). Micah Alba (coached CBs for 3 years at Fresno State). Derrick Odum (OSU DBs). Ben Criddle. Paul Tidwell. Brian Logan. Jason Walker. Jernaro Gilford.

OLBs: Justin Ena (Utah LBs). Ilaisa Tuiaki (OSU LBs). Shaun Nua (Navy DL assistant). Jason Kaufusi (Weber State DEs, 4 years). Jason Walker (SVU HC, 2 years). Kent Baer (UNLV DC). Mike Fanoga (VUU DC). Eti Ena (Cal Poly DL). Russell Tialavea. Vic So'oto. Paul Tidwell. Rob Morris. Stewart Bradley.

Strength & Conditioning: Larry Jackson (Texas A&M). Jordan Pendleton.

Cougs_Rule

12/21/2015, 12:59:40 PM

Thanks Mars! You should send to Didk Harmon/press.

And boy doesn't Kilani look like a bad choice? :roll:

No less than two endorsements that he has previously worked with; Approval by one of the 12 apostles and the Board of Trustees and University president;The most support by BYU football alums in the last 50 years; the first true BYU football alum, and 95% of the Fan base; a better recruiter than the predecessor,-- with the shelves full of talent (thanks Bronco!!!) with more talent waiting to jump on; and yes, the first Poly HC! :love:

Now make some great hires and lets keep this thing rolling into a P5 invite!

Go Kilani! Go Cougs!

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 2:23:50 PM

CR-You're saying that more alumni support him for HC than were supportive of Lavell when he was winning an NC and producing a Heisman winner? Okay :roll:

And every BYU HC gets endorsed by the brethren and president, otherwise they wouldn't be hired - "what makes this a good hire?" "Well, because we hired him." Circular.

95 percent of fans!? Amazing, you used an actual number! Too bad you pulled it straight out of your ass, and, according to you, numbers don't really mean anything anyway.

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Mars

12/21/2015, 7:38:37 PM

Schmoe wrote:
CR-You're saying that more alumni support him for HC than were supportive of Lavell.

LaVell was a Utah State player who had never been head coach. Sitake is a BYU player who has never been head coach, but has been the assistant head coach at two PAC-12 schools, and has great recruiting ties. Point, Kalani.

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 7:52:27 PM

Mars wrote:
CR-You're saying that more alumni support him for HC than were supportive of Lavell.

LaVell was a Utah State player who had never been head coach. Sitake is a BYU player who has never been head coach, but has been the assistant head coach at two PAC-12 schools, and has great recruiting ties. Point, Kalani.

So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring? So instead of saying "more alumni support than any coach in the last 50 years" we really should just be saying "he's the only alumnus who's been hired as HC since the 1930s." Because it's so important for the HC to be an alum? Because all our successful coaches have been alumni? Because Lavell needed to be an alum to win a national title? Hooray for BYU becoming the former players club where guys like Hans Olsen are treated like king $#!+ while our team does poorly on the field! :lol:

PS-You should end this quote with an ellipsis (...) not a period. What you've posted was not my entire statement and leaving off the rest without acknowledgement is disingenuous at best.

Mars

12/21/2015, 8:27:16 PM

Schmoe wrote:
So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring?

No, let's talk about Coach Sitake's entire career instead. :roll:

Mars

12/21/2015, 8:29:07 PM

Schmoe wrote:
Hooray for BYU becoming the former players club where guys like Hans Olsen are treated like king $#!+ while our team does poorly on the field!

You're writing off next season already. You're writing off the new head coach already. I'm okay with having doubts, but pretending that you can see the future, and that the only possibility is abject failure, makes you Airwolf.

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 8:34:47 PM

Mars wrote:
So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring?

No, let's talk about Coach Sitake's entire career instead. :roll:

So, it's a good hire, then, because he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire? Hell, we could've hired Urroner and that would still be true. We're supposed to give this a great grade because there's a chance, based on no real evidence, and in the face of all measurables, that Sitake will be a good HC just because? Yes, let's all get real excited about that. :sulk:

fallball

12/21/2015, 8:40:21 PM

Looks like Detmer and Lamb:

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pikoi

12/21/2015, 8:40:25 PM

Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring?

No, let's talk about Coach Sitake's entire career instead. :roll:

So, it's a good hire, then, because he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire? Hell, we could've hired Urroner and that would still be true. We're supposed to give this a great grade because there's a chance, based on no real evidence, and in the face of all measurables, that Sitake will be a good HC just because? Yes, let's all get real excited about that. :sulk:

BYU could hire ANYONE and "he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire." Coach Sitake has a resume that is comparable with both Lavell and Bronco at the time they were each hired. Who is the better alternative here? And how do you know that they were a realistic option?

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 8:45:03 PM

pikoi wrote:
Mars wrote:
So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring?

No, let's talk about Coach Sitake's entire career instead. :roll:

So, it's a good hire, then, because he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire? Hell, we could've hired Urroner and that would still be true. We're supposed to give this a great grade because there's a chance, based on no real evidence, and in the face of all measurables, that Sitake will be a good HC just because? Yes, let's all get real excited about that. :sulk:

BYU could hire ANYONE and "he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire." Coach Sitake has a resume that is comparable with both Lavell and Bronco at the time they were each hired. Who is the better alternative here? And how do you know that they were a realistic option?

Wrong, Bronco made teams better as an assistant and the players who played for him advocated for him to be HC.

So, because you think he was our only realistic option (Ken N, Anderson, even Anae have better track records of success and making teams better), we HAVE to be happy about the hire? I'm supposed to be over the moon for the low-protein gruel that the prison guards feed me because it's my only option?

Mars

12/21/2015, 8:47:34 PM

Schmoe wrote:
So, it's a good hire, then...

I don't think either of us know the answer to that yet. Crowton may have seemed a good hire to many at the time. Bronco may have seemed a terrible hire. And I doubt anyone knew just how incredible LaVell's career would turn out to be.

I'm concerned that his defenses declined statistically at Utah. I'm concerned about his year at Oregon State. I worry how much of his success was actually Whittingham's. It's too bad we couldn't bring in a proven head coach. I also had concerns about Kyle, Ken, Bevell, Lance, Anae, and most others on BYU's possibility list.

But also, I hope that his recruiting will pay off big. I hope he can bring in some talented new blood on the coaching staff. I hope that he will better prepare BYU mentally, emotionally, and schematically to beat Utah. I hope that former players, coaches, and fans will turn their hearts back to BYU, providing increased support and money, and that BYU puts it to good use winning games on the football field.

I also hope that BYU gets into the Big XII and that Rice Chex burns down. Since I can't control the world, my fingers are crossed.

Go Cougars

BoiseBYU

12/21/2015, 8:48:30 PM

Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
So, we're only talking about at the point of hiring?

No, let's talk about Coach Sitake's entire career instead. :roll:

So, it's a good hire, then, because he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire? Hell, we could've hired Urroner and that would still be true. We're supposed to give this a great grade because there's a chance, based on no real evidence, and in the face of all measurables, that Sitake will be a good HC just because? Yes, let's all get real excited about that. :sulk:

BYU could hire ANYONE and "he COULD do really well or he COULD turn our program into a dumpster fire." Coach Sitake has a resume that is comparable with both Lavell and Bronco at the time they were each hired. Who is the better alternative here? And how do you know that they were a realistic option?

Wrong, Bronco made teams better as an assistant and the players who played for him advocated for him to be HC.

So, because you think he was our only realistic option (Ken N, Anderson, even Anae have better track records of success and making teams better), we HAVE to be happy about the hire? I'm supposed to be over the moon for the low-protein gruel that the prison guards feed me because it's my only option?

Either one believes that TH has the best interests of BYU at heart, and has done his due diligence, and is of the belief that KS is THE best available HC for BYU or one doesn't. I have confidence in TH that KS is the best option we have for BYU.

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 8:48:39 PM

Mars wrote:
Hooray for BYU becoming the former players club where guys like Hans Olsen are treated like king $#!+ while our team does poorly on the field!

You're writing off next season already. You're writing off the new head coach already. I'm okay with having doubts, but pretending that you can see the future, and that the only possibility is abject failure, makes you Airwolf.

I would happily lay off if the opposite weren't true of fans of the hire, trying to take a dig at those of us with very real and articulable doubts on EVERY SINGLE THREAD (see this one, for example. We can't just talk about assistant coaches, which I'd like to do, but we have to throw in the "what a terrible hire :roll: " and other dumb shit that has nothing to do with assistant coaches to just keep trying to make ourselves feel better).

pikoi

12/21/2015, 8:55:11 PM

Players advocating for a coach is credible evidence of coaching acumen? We will have to agree to disagree on that one. It is possible that Coach Sitake made OSU's defense worse. But if you are going to blame him for the OSU defense, you also have to give him credit for the Utah DL play from 05-08 (DL coach) and overall defensive play from 09-14 while he was defensive coordinator and Asst. Head coach. I am not saying he is the perfect candidate or a guarantee, but he has the experience and talent to be successful. Let's hope that he is- and that he can hire some great assistants!

Schmoe

12/21/2015, 8:56:09 PM

pikoi wrote:
Players advocating for a coach is credible evidence of coaching acumen? We will have to agree to disagree on that one. It is possible that Coach Sitake made OSU's defense worse. But if you are going to blame him for the OSU defense, you also have to give him credit for the Utah DL play from 05-08 (DL coach) and overall defensive play from 09-14 while he was defensive coordinator and Asst. Head coach. I am not saying he is the perfect candidate or a guarantee, but he has the experience and talent to be successful. Let's hope that he is!

I have given him credit for the Utah defense from 09-14, IT GOT WORSE EACH YEAR AND BETTER AS SOON AS HE WAS GONE. Here's the numbers AGAIN:

Utah Scoring and overall defense by year w/ Sitake as defensive coordinator: 2008 (year before Sitake):12

2009: 23 & 18

2010: 24 & 20

2011: 19 & 27

2012: 49 & 36

2013: 73 & 61

2014: 61 & 74

2015 (year after Sitake): 31 & 41

At OSU:

2014 (year before Sitake):97 & 78

2015: 115 & 117

I hope we do great, too. But don't tell me I have no reason to doubt when this stuff is staring us in the face.

pikoi

12/21/2015, 9:02:48 PM

pikoi wrote:
I am not saying he is the perfect candidate or a guarantee, but he has the experience and talent to be successful. Let's hope that he is- and that he can hire some great assistants!

See above. Not a perfect candidate. Not a guarantee. Hope he can hire some great assistants.

FYI, we all know these numbers. I wish they were better for Kalani (not for Utah!). It is not super surprising that the Utah defense gave up more yards and points against the PAC12 schedule than the MWC schedule in previous years.

And doubt away. We all are. Just hoping for the best.

Stirfry

12/21/2015, 10:19:55 PM

Schmoe wrote:
Players advocating for a coach is credible evidence of coaching acumen? We will have to agree to disagree on that one. It is possible that Coach Sitake made OSU's defense worse. But if you are going to blame him for the OSU defense, you also have to give him credit for the Utah DL play from 05-08 (DL coach) and overall defensive play from 09-14 while he was defensive coordinator and Asst. Head coach. I am not saying he is the perfect candidate or a guarantee, but he has the experience and talent to be successful. Let's hope that he is!

I have given him credit for the Utah defense from 09-14, IT GOT WORSE EACH YEAR AND BETTER AS SOON AS HE WAS GONE. Here's the numbers AGAIN:

Utah Scoring and overall defense by year w/ Sitake as defensive coordinator: 2008 (year before Sitake):12

2009: 23 & 18

2010: 24 & 20

2011: 19 & 27

2012: 49 & 36

2013: 73 & 61

2014: 61 & 74

2015 (year after Sitake): 31 & 41

At OSU:

2014 (year before Sitake):97 & 78

2015: 115 & 117

I hope we do great, too. But don't tell me I have no reason to doubt when this stuff is staring us in the face.

Doesn't this pretty much coincide with the jump to the Pac12 and the pac and utahs schedule getting more difficult? Time at OSU just needs to be thrown out.

I think everyone has concerns and these stats keep getting cited but I haven't heard of many if any better options.

If by Anderson you mention the Stanford guy I don't know why he never gained traction. However I don't see how he's anymore qualified than Kalani. I don't know what his Defense ranks but I do know he doesn't have BYU ties. He was my second choice.

Gary Anderson? Not an option

Anae? I was probably more on the Anae fan list than most but his personality appear like they would make him a terrible head coach .

Ken N?- dudes in a job he loves in a place he loves and lives him and he's about to qualify for a federal pension while being the highest paid federal employee. No way he leaves.

It's pretty hard for you players to advocate for you to be HC when the HC at their current school is still employed.

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BroncoBot

12/21/2015, 11:17:53 PM

Lot of lines in the sand being drawn today.

I'm always skeptical with new coaches. But I'm going to be cheering Kalani from day 1. He's not going to be perfect and just like Mangum on Saturday, he's probably going to make some frosh errors. Such is life. I'm also hoping he makes some awesome hires as assistant to support him and make as seamless as possible of a transition to HC. If he performs approximately as well as bronco and stays for 20 years while getting into the NC conversation a few times, I'll be happy.

scott715

12/22/2015, 1:19:41 AM

We will have to give him a few years before we get an idea of how well he will do. Crowton's first year was incredible and made me a fanatical fan. And then we saw how that worked out. Next year will be his first recruiting class. Recruiting is where we expect him to shine. This year might be too late. Hopefully he get some of the borderline kids to come to the recruiting weekend and get them to join up.

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