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Ryker Matthew taking blame for losing game.

by urroner · 9/20/2015

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urroner
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Okay, I just posted something about punishing him drastically for the penalty, but it was all done TIC.



Ryker feels like crap, but it was a mistake. It wasn't done intentionally. When I'd really screw up something, my coach would pull me aside and say "Lynn, you have the weekend to mope around and feel sorry for yourself, but come Monday, if you ain't over it, I'll make sure you are."



If I beat myself up for the dumbasseries I achieved in this life, my avatar would be way better looking than me. As it is, it's just better looking.
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Fido
That series definitely was a turning point in the momentum of the game. But its in the rear view mirror. Play great at Michigan and all is forgiven.
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BroncoBot
Fido wrote:
That series definitely was a turning point in the momentum of the game. But its in the rear view mirror. Play great at Michigan and all is forgiven.

that series stunk. But his "hold" was the same thing UCLA did all night in protection of Rosen. He just happened to get called for it. part of the game, he needs to move on and forget it.
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CAFB_04-12
I find it really difficult to tell when the line is playing well or poorly, but it would be interesting to see how well he graded out on that game. Seems like he was solid most of the game, but that call was a real killer and brought back a huge run on a drive that could have ended in a TD. I really thought the line did well enough to give Tanner the time he's supposed to have. Tanner kept the ball too long, I thought, on his sacks.



But like I said, it's hard for me to tell when the line is playing well.
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Guest
I could see that being a legit hold call, but what was frustrating is that Bronson was getting "held" like that on several key plays but got no whistle for it. Call it close both ways.



That being said. There were 3 - 5 key plays that if they had gone our way would have been a win. In no way is that loss all on Ryker's shoulders. It was a a team loss, as every aspect of the team had some mistakes that if executed correctly would have lead to us winning that game.
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Gunk
That was a game changing moment.



However, given our offense's inability to score TD's last night, in all likelihood that penalty only cost us 3 points. Three is all we needed to win, but the idea the penalty kept us from tromping all over UCLA is a misnomer.



Letting UCLA get down the field and score a TD, IMO was much more of a momentum swinger than the penalty.



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tmoney35
I certainly don't blame Ryker solely for the loss, but I respect him coming out and taking responsibility and not making excuses.



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SpiffCoug
I like the personal (and public) accountability. I also hope that tomorrow in team meetings, teammates tell Ryker that the loss wasn't on him. They also failed to help secure the win.



It was a team loss. The last chance the Defense had to prevent the game winning points from being scored, they failed to do so. The last chance the Offense had to score the game winning points, they failed to do so.
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Cougs_Rule
Credit Anae for pulling him before he created more problems. He put Lui in on the next series and it showed. There was the hold, then the false start to add insult to injury, and then when he did do better on the next play, it was his man who sacked TMan.

Unfortunately Ryker missed a huge block later on the screen pass to the left and the dude he should have blocked made the tackle with a fair amount of real estate ahead of him.

It's never just one guy. Tanner forced the last pass right into double coverage. And yes, disparity from refs.

But credit him for owning it. Clearly coaches expect more from any player let alone a Sr.
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frdbtr
respect for Matthews for coming out publicly about poor play. Having said that, he was getting abused by UCLA's defense all night. When Lapuaho(sp?) came in, the offense changed for the better and started moving the ball.
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HoosierCougar
1) 3 total points on 4 turnovers (including the on side kick) in the 1st half.

2) Giving up huge runs in the 4th quarter.



These are things that contributed to the loss. Several plays on offense lead to #1.



I have heard 2 interesting thoughts in the wake of the game:



1) Let's kick the wheels off this cart, there's nothing left to play for.

2) BYU should really be 0-3.



Huh?

The Cougars are 2-1 and lost on the road to a very talented top 10 team by 1 (and had a chance to win). You won't always pull those out. While we all wanted a win, nothing's changed, and the next step is to beat Michigan. If we win out, we're in the NY6 discussion.



"Should be" is ridiculous. Under that logic, all games should stop when only a tremendous finish can change the outcome. Under that scenario, both UCLA and tOSU lose yesterday!



C'mon. Let's go beat Michigan!
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KingCoug
The responsibility for a loss, and the praise for a win, begins and ends with the coaches.



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KingCoug wrote:
The responsibility for a loss, and the praise for a win, begins and ends with the coaches.



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So players bear no responsibility? And instead of ESPN interviewing Tanner Mangum the last two weeks they really should have been Robert Anae?



Because I seem to remember a lot of posts and threads about winning DESPITE the coaches.
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Matthews mistakes were at a critical time and likely did cost us a chance to win then, but as mentioned, there were numerous plays that had we executed better would have one us the game. Some posted before is game that it was going to require a perfect game from us to win at UCLA, but it doesn't appear that was the case. We played well enough that take back one of any number of mistakes or poor execution and we still win the game. These Cougars are legit and should scare any team we play. Ultimately, if I had to put the blame somewhere it would be on Bronco and the Defense. All we needed to do was stop one running play up the middle. They ran it over and over again and we never figured out how to stop it. Even when the back up came in to run it he was just about as successful. Lastly, how about stop calling time outs on defense so we have them at the end of the game, had we had all three time outs they can't kneel down to run out the clock and we have a little chance to force something or at least get the ball back with a few second left..
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snoscythe
During media availability, Tanner Mangum said the loss was his fault, so someone has got to be lying here.
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Cougs_Rule
Now dont start that again. :D
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snoscythe
All I know is that, according to players speaking up so far, it's unanimous that fault lies on the offensive side of the ball. Whether it specifically lies with Mathews or Mangum, I don't know. But what I do know is that apparently everyone owes Cougs_Rule an apology for piling on when he criticized the offense, cuz Ryker Mathews and Tanner Mangum agree with him.



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