Low Blow

Unfortunately, Lapuaho's low blow to the groin area is getting as much attention in the press as our win. Figured it would and now there are a slew of "shame on BYU, aren't they Christians" stories.



Was the blow low, yes. Does that sort of thing happen in piles at every football game, probably, but do you think there should have been more repercussion?



On a side note, I expect more articles on how as Christians we should be above such behavior should we continue to win. Hating on religion in any sort of fashion is in vogue.



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Gunk wrote:
Unfortunately, Lapuaho's low blow to the groin area is getting as much attention in the press as our win. Figured it would and now there are a slew of "shame on BYU, aren't they Christians" stories.



Was the blow low, yes. Does that sort of thing happen in piles at every football game, probably, but do you think there should have been more repercussion?



On a side note, I expect more articles on how as Christians we should be above such behavior should we continue to win. Hating on religion in any sort of fashion is in vogue.



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Where are you seeing these stories? I haven't seen any of them.



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They are several articles.

ABYUFAN wrote:

Unfortunately, Lapuaho's low blow to the groin area is getting as much attention in the press as our win. Figured it would and now there are a slew of "shame on BYU, aren't they Christians" stories.



Was the blow low, yes. Does that sort of thing happen in piles at every football game, probably, but do you think there should have been more repercussion?



On a side note, I expect more articles on how as Christians we should be above such behavior should we continue to win. Hating on religion in any sort of fashion is in vogue.



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Where are you seeing these stories? I haven't seen any of them.



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Washington Post did one. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2015/09/13/a-byu-player-punched-a-boise-state-player-in-a-very-sensitive-area/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I have seen a few come over my Facebook feed. Do a Google news search for BYU football and 12 articles pop up on it.



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Suspend him for a quarter and be done with it. He got hit late and lost his cool and it got flagged.



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Those who are trying to make a big thing out of the groin hit are those who already have a problem with the Church/BYU, regardless of what anyone affiliated with it - even a college football player - does or doesn't do.



I mean, for those who already havent, go look at how many posts there are about the groin hit on Ute Fans. It's like these chumps are so pissed that we pulled out a win they are trying to alleviate their frustration by obsessing over the groin hit. At the very least totally exaggerating and blowing things way out of proportion to where BYU is the dirtiest team in the history of organized sports. The more extreme ones will try to use this as an avenue to knock the Church. Even some ALUFs who, ironically enough, otherwise claim there's no reason to connect BYU and the Church when they try to justify rooting for Utah over BYU.

It was a low blow. It was stupid. I thought they could have flagged the late hit but didn't.



bottom line, don't punch a guy in the nards. especially on ESPN. I'd be ok with a punch, shove, push, grabbin a facemask, etc, but as a fan I don't like seeing anyone aim for the groin area. I still don't like Chris Paul for going the same thing to Julius hodge while in college.

Schmoe wrote:
Suspend him for a quarter and be done with it. He got hit late and lost his cool and it got flagged.

There better not be a suspension for any time period. If there is any punishment at all it should be the same as any other 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Run some extra laps and go visit one of the local elementary schools and tell them not to hit other kids in the groin on ESPN.

BroncoBot wrote:
It was a low blow. It was stupid. I thought they could have flagged the late hit but didn't.



bottom line, don't punch a guy in the nards. especially on ESPN. I'd be ok with a punch, shove, push, grabbin a facemask, etc, but as a fan I don't like seeing anyone aim for the groin area. I still don't like Chris Paul for going the same thing to Julius hodge while in college.

Nobody is saying it wasn't a low blow. What I have a problem with is people using this incident as an excuse to yell everything from "BYU's always been dirty" to "Mormons are hypocrites." Talk about blowing things out of proportion. :roll:



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I was upset with the officials for allowing that poser, James, IIRC, to spear Ului on the ground late, and to continue to try to wrestle the ball away after the play was way dead. Ului was on the ground, in possession of the ball, all by himself. He was trying to get up so he could hand the ball to the official, rather than allow James to pretend that he had any claim on it. James deserved the penalty way before the punch was thrown out of frustration.



I don't condone punching the guy, but I doubt that there was any deliberate attempt to target the nads.



I agree that this kind of thing gets little attention when it happens with equal frequency among secular programs. The Utes and other haters want the week's story to be all about this instead of about the exciting Cougar wins, or about Mangum getting zero football training on his mission and yet producing famous, improbable, clutch plays.



It's been a very tough and discouraging 8 or 9 days for the BYU haters.



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BOID wrote:



It's been a very tough and discouraging 8 or 9 days for the BYU haters.



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Well hopefully we can keep disappointing them. Reading the Ute fan board after a BYU victory is always amusing. I'm convinced that many of them get more pleasure out of a BYU loss than a Utah win.



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The Utes punch and kick our players in the balls when we play. A lot. BSU player probably deserved some of it. BYU haters need something to distract the world from a 2-0 start through our brutal September schedule.



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Honestly I try to give the benefit of most people say or do things in the heat of the moment that they otherwise wouldn't consider. My only question is why he wasn't ejected. I thought a thrown punch equaled automatic ejections. Anyone here know the rules well enough to explain?



Go Cougs!!!

J. Child

Ammon, ID

AmmonCougar1 wrote:
Honestly I try to give the benefit of most people say or do things in the heat of the moment that they otherwise wouldn't consider. My only question is why he wasn't ejected. I thought a thrown punch equaled automatic ejections. Anyone here know the rules well enough to explain?



Go Cougs!!!

J. Child

Ammon, ID

Why? Aside from the refs being tards and not flagging the spear, if they are going to let one team play rough and get away with it, they should allow a little retaliation. But quite honestly, I think it happened so fast and there was uncertainty about ball security and whether or not they should call spearing that they merely called a unsportsmanlike.

As for the Pukes, don't leave out that some are pissed that BYU is even or ahead of them in the polls and their precious PACo crap status isn't carrying the weight they have deluded themselves into believing. Who cares. The press coverage isn't even remotely close to the great win and comeback and Tanner Mangum phenomenum happening. And half of it is simply Utes plugging social media to try and give it life.

One silver lining the penalty pushed us to something like 4th and 51 which has got to be some sort of record.



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I have no problem with getting a little retaliation on a late hit. He got flagged and penalized for it, so end of story for me.

Yep, should have been double offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. That's it. Move on.

byufan4ever wrote:
Yep, should have been double offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. That's it. Move on.

Actually, throwing a punch is supposed to be an automatic ejection. If it's in the first half, you just miss the rest of the game, if it's in the second half, you're supposed to be automatically suspended the first half of the next game as well.



If we were in a conference, the conference officiating committee would probably reassess the nard-punch over the weekend, and we'd be hearing today about how the puncher is suspended the first half of the game against UCLA.



Independence pays off again!!

Per Greg Wrubel:



"Bronco says OL Ului Lapuaho has had internal team discipline imposed for his personal foul v. BSU; will not require missing any game time."



Good!

Ungoy wrote:
Per Greg Wrubel:



"Bronco says OL Ului Lapuaho has had internal team discipline imposed for his personal foul v. BSU; will not require missing any game time."



Good!

Well that should be good for 3-4 days of nonstop coverage on the Zone!