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Rice on his way back?

by Brayden Green · 2/25/2015

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Brayden Green
UNLV having a relatively disappointing year after just getting trounced by Utah State. Is it possible he gets let go and we swoop in to get him? Loved him during his time here, and I think that he would be a shoe in for next in line after a few more years under Rose. I can't see him coaching for much longer than his 5 year extension, with all his health concerns etc.



Like #23 and KG, is it time to come back home?
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BYULV
Rice is definitely in the hotseat here in LV. He is not a current fan favorite. Depending how the season finishes out, he might get one more year to try to prove himself, but public opinion is not on his side. I wouldn't be surprised to see him let go by UNLV, but I don't see him coming back to BYU. Also, I don't think he is LDS which makes it unlikely he would be in the running for the head coaching spot.



I think Coach Pope has positioned himself as a likely candidate to replace Rose when the time comes. Maybe Austin Ainge would throw his hat into the ring if the timings right; he has assistant and head coaching experience as well as experience with recruiting and player development. Who else is out there positioning themselves to replace Coach Rose?
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imuakahuku
I guess I could be convinced to throw my hat into the ring. I've coached four championship young men's teams in six years. Maybe that would get me a five year million dollar contract. Also, since I have not had the opportunity to go to any games and sit by Rose, can the coach use swear words like (and please pardon my French a) h$ck and d@rn?



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snoscythe
I think Terry Nashif is the heir-apparent right now.



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Wolverine
Coach Rice just received a contract extension last year. I am sure he has at least one more year to go at UNLV. His team is very, very young this year. If he can keep his current players in the program, along with his current recruits, the win-loss record will be better and he might survive in Vegas. Regardless, I don't think we will ever see him on BYU's sideline again.
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I've heard that there are some hard feelings between Rice and BYU. From people who claim to know some things they don't expect Rice to ever be back at BYU even if he leaves UNLV and there were a spot at BYU available.
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If Bronco left BYU, would he return to New Mexico as defensive coordinator?
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Brayden Green
If (possibly when) Bronco gets released, he'll be done. Anything you could send my way Hawk, or can anyone pm me regarding bad feelings about Rice here. I haven't heard anything. I think an opportunity sprang up and he took it. Most don't like Nashif, I must admit I don't know much about the assistants, but I'm not impressed about the coaching since Rice left. There has been a big drop off in coaching since he left, in my opinion. We are dropping silly games that we used to not, and other clock related and matchup related things. Plus, that zone is terrible, and they can't play man. Which of the blame lies where as far as the coaching tree?



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scott715
I think the local Lewis would be a good choice. I know he is a big part of our pipeline but the guy can coach. Maybe they should make him an assistant a couple of years before Rose leaves.
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BYULV
BlueIsBetter wrote:
If (possibly when) Bronco gets released, he'll be done. Anything you could send my way Hawk, or can anyone pm me regarding bad feelings about Rice here. I haven't heard anything. I think an opportunity sprang up and he took it. Most don't like Nashif, I must admit I don't know much about the assistants, but I'm not impressed about the coaching since Rice left. There has been a big drop off in coaching since he left, in my opinion. We are dropping silly games that we used to not, and other clock related and matchup related things. Plus, that zone is terrible, and they can't play man. Which of the blame lies where as far as the coaching tree?



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Actually, these arguments might have worked early this season, but fall flat now that we are seeing the defense, especially the zone, becoming effective. And coaching has also been good down the stretch. They have had to make a lot of adjustments and be creative with personnel because of injuries. The big men are actually starting to show enough promise that worthington has been losing minutes. This BYU team has been a mess for a good portion of this season and the coaches have started to right the ship. We are back in NCAA Tournament discussions which is a huge accomplishment with the team we have.. Overall not perfect, but making progress.
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SenorCougar
I vote for Jerry Sloan. You don't suppose his language would cause any problems with the Brethren sitting courtside , do you?
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frdbtr
SenorCougar wrote:
I vote for Jerry Sloan. You don't suppose his language would cause any problems with the Brethren sitting courtside , do you?


LOL! I've never heard it in person of course, but I heard Sloan could teach LA gang members a new vocabulary.
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EM_Puma
As mentioned, Dave Rice is not LDS, and therefore would not be considered. Besides, Rice I believe is a good coach and if it doesn't work for him at UNLV that he'll find another HC job. They lost their star player a few games back and it has taken it's toll on UNLV, but I believe that they'll give him a bit more latitude beyond a couple years. He's been in contention, but has fallen off this season, kind of like BYU.



I would believe Pope's light is shining a bit brighter than Nashiff's as far as a future HC.
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Cougs_Rule
scott715 wrote:
I think the local Lewis would be a good choice. I know he is a big part of our pipeline but the guy can coach. Maybe they should make him an assistant a couple of years before Rose leaves.


This!

Nashif? Big mistake.

Pope? Maybe, but I don't see it.

Ainge? Is he even coaching? Wasn't he a scout for Danny? I don't see it.
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snoscythe
EM_Puma wrote:
I would believe Pope's light is shining a bit brighter than Nashiff's as far as a future HC.


Nashif is currently the equivalent of our OC for hoops. What's functioning better these days--big men or the offense?



Not to say that Pope can't take the inside line on the last turn, but as of right now Nashif is the next guy up. A lot can change in 5+ years, but that's where it's at today.
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Cougs_Rule
Ya but, Howell was a defacto (and too much delegated to) DC to the great Defensive mind of Bronco. So is Nashiff to Rose. But, That doesn't mean Howell or Nashiff should even sniff being an HC except maybe in high school.
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frdbtr wrote:
I vote for Jerry Sloan. You don't suppose his language would cause any problems with the Brethren sitting courtside , do you?


LOL! I've never heard it in person of course, but I heard Sloan could teach LA gang members a new vocabulary.


I'm for Sloan! Maybe a student assistant could watch him closely and being armed with a beeper could train him to be a good BYU guy. Sandiago State's defense would have nothing on us. Joseph said he'd rather be around a guy that'd cuss your arm off than a 2 faced hypocrite.
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BYULV
Cougs_Rule wrote:
I think the local Lewis would be a good choice. I know he is a big part of our pipeline but the guy can coach. Maybe they should make him an assistant a couple of years before Rose leaves.


This!

Nashif? Big mistake.

Pope? Maybe, but I don't see it.

Ainge? Is he even coaching? Wasn't he a scout for Danny? I don't see it.


Ainge is working with the Celtics now, some vague title, not sure what he does. Was head coach for a D-league team on the East Coast for two years, Assistant with SUU and scouting/recruiting for SUU and the Celtics. I would think he still needs experience, but he has doing stuff.
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snoscythe
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Ya but, Howell was a defacto (and too much delegated to) DC to the great Defensive mind of Bronco. So is Nashiff to Rose. But, That doesn't mean Howell or Nashiff should even sniff being an HC except maybe in high school.


Or Pope....j/k. But the point is that Pope has just as little to go on in hoping he'll be a great replacement for Rose. He just has novelty on his side right now.



I'm not saying Nashif is a lock to be a great coach, I'm just saying that everyone I know closer to the program than I say that Nashif would be next up if they needed to replace Rose today. I know people knock him for being a slightly-below average player in his playing days, but I haven't seen anything from him as a coach that makes me think he's in over his head like Howell.
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