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Skye PoVey Poll

by Cougarbib · 8/31/2014

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Cougarbib
PoVey gets bashed a lot. Someone called for him to never again see the field after the UCONN game. Someone else called him weak. I think he is in danger of becoming the next fan punching bag.



I have no dog in this hunt. I do not know him. Not related. No mutual friends.



I do know he tied for the team lead in tackles with 10. He was 2nd in unassisted tackles. Right up their with Stout. He had a sack of 5 yards. Yes. UCONN caught some passes. They caught them on all of our backs. Our receivers caught passes too. That is how it works. He did not cause an interception to get called back like Leavitt.



Should he ever see the field again? You know - if someone else gets injured or suspended.



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Cougs_Rule
YES!

Folks need to lay off PoVey. Criticize the coaches choice, but not PoVey. I don't know him either. But he is a safety being asked to play DB. He just isn't a good DB--not his fault. Yes, he gets picked on--last year and last night. But, He leaves it all out there on the field. Harvey Jackson came in more of the second half to help--he has the speed, but not always the scheme and not Broncos trust.
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TulaneVandyRiceCoug
Agreed.

I think we have a great team this year, and yes, there's plenty to work on and more depth would always be wonderful, but when he was called on, Skye did his job and filled in just fine. He was not great, and I wish I had a more glowing review--but when called on, Skye did his job.



There is this, where Povey has a sack, but Alani has a personal foul penalty that negates it (this was the fishing reel gesture which I thought was kind of funny):http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11434132



Worriers will worry, haters will hate, but I'm kind of a Skye Povey fan. Here's why. I like Skye not for anything special, but because he's like a behind the scenes type, works his tail off, and although he does not have that same talent level as a few others in the defensive backfield--he did his job as best as possible. When we have JJ, TrentT, and RDan back, I think we will perhaps see a little less of Skye. He can spell the secondary, and he can step in if needed. (And I'll just leave it on that optimistic note, and am well aware of the counterarguments).
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byufan4ever
Good poll. I thought I was going to be the only one voting yes. Some of the haters had been very vocal.
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BroncoBot
PoVey is serviceable. Not the greatest, and gets picked on a lot (by opponents as well as fans) but he does a decent job. I think some of us have short memories.
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Screamineagle
Yes the kid does not give up.
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Gunk
I don't get the hate. Maybe I wasn't watching close enough...



PoVey > Heaps



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mizzoucoug
His run defense was solid as was his corner blitz. He is a liability in coverage no doubt, but he knows what he's doing. He's just limited.
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Cougarbib
Our defensive backfield was a patchwork quilt, but it held up quite well. Fans are illogical much of the time. We expect our receivers to get separation and YAC vans rack up 300 yards every game but expect opponent receivers to never be open. Unrealistic.



I was pleased that that beast of a receiver UCONN had did not man handle our DBs like we always expected Hoff to do. I also did not see any of their guys getting wide open behind our backs and then out racing them to the endzone.



If you have been a BYU fan as long as I have been one, you have seen this too many times in the past.



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stuckinbig10country
He's ok at safety. I hope he doesn't have to play corner this year.



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FurriousCougar
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.
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Cougs_Rule
FurriousCougar wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.
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CrimsonCoug
Cougs_Rule wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.


Smaller, slower and less talented DSorenson. Sure, Skye tries hard. Heck, so would I. That doesn't mean I should get significant game time.



This poll is terrible, simply terrible, because it follows the hyperbole of a terrible post. He's a Sr; I want him to get significant minutes against Savannah State. But if you ask if he should START again (and I realize he didn't start this one, but he started a good share last year), I think the poll might look differently. I would be quite satisfied if we didn't see much of him in the other games, because that would mean that those who are more talented and currently behind him are improving their knowledge of the schemes.



I trust the coaches--though sometimes there's a hint of nepotism.
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BroncoBot
CrimsonCoug wrote:
FurriousCougar wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.


Smaller, slower and less talented DSorenson. Sure, Skye tries hard. Heck, so would I. That doesn't mean I should get significant game time.

But you WOULD get significant playing time if you were the best available option for a coach for a given game.
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Cougs_Rule
CrimsonCoug wrote:
FurriousCougar wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.


Smaller, slower and less talented DSorenson. Sure, Skye tries hard. Heck, so would I. That doesn't mean I should get significant game time.



This poll is terrible, simply terrible, because it follows the hyperbole of a terrible post. He's a Sr; I want him to get significant minutes against Savannah State. But if you ask if he should START again (and I realize he didn't start this one, but he started a good share last year), I think the poll might look differently. I would be quite satisfied if we didn't see much of him in the other games, because that would mean that those who are more talented and currently behind him are improving their knowledge of the schemes.



I trust the coaches--though sometimes there's a hint of nepotism.


Yes, this poll, might be slightly useless and based on a minority of myopic haters, like you, but to suggest nepotism is silly. Did you mean racism? Who is PoVey related to?? He tied for leading tackler, apparently he's as pathetic as you suggest. All of us wish we had better players at the majority of positions.
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CrimsonCoug
Well, Skye just happens to be the brother-in-law of our Defensive Coordinator who was formerly his position coach with the secondary. Now I'm not sayin...I'm just sayin.



And if this poll were "based on a minority of myopic haters, like [me]" then I wouldn't have voted Yes.



His strength is his understanding of the schemes, which is why he gets as many tackles as he does. And I'm not diminishing that--10 tackles in a game is a big deal! I'm glad we had him available: He's reliable and not getting himself suspended. Skye's the poster boy for Anae's news trope: Will over skill. That's cool; will is critical. And again, I trust the coaches...though again that close relationship with his boss could raise an eyebrow.



I just wish we had some better options in coverage. It's just seemed to me that more than half the time there's a gain that goes for more than 15-20 yards, it's on his watch. I do agree with the earlier coverage that he'd make a better safety than a corner.



Look, I'm not hating on Skye. I don't know the guy. I just dislike seeing him get abused like Balam's ass in pass coverage.
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CrimsonCoug
BroncoBot wrote:
Cougs_Rule wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.


Smaller, slower and less talented DSorenson. Sure, Skye tries hard. Heck, so would I. That doesn't mean I should get significant game time.

But you WOULD get significant playing time if you were the best available option for a coach for a given game.


Heaven help that poor coach!! :~( :lol:
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Cougs_Rule
CrimsonCoug wrote:
Well, Skye just happens to be the brother-in-law of our Defensive Coordinator who was formerly his position coach with the secondary. Now I'm not sayin...I'm just sayin.



And if this poll were "based on a minority of myopic haters, like [me]" then I wouldn't have voted Yes.



His strength is his understanding of the schemes, which is why he gets as many tackles as he does. And I'm not diminishing that--10 tackles in a game is a big deal! I'm glad we had him available: He's reliable and not getting himself suspended. Skye's the poster boy for Anae's news trope: Will over skill. That's cool; will is critical. And again, I trust the coaches...though again that close relationship with his boss could raise an eyebrow.



I just wish we had some better options in coverage. It's just seemed to me that more than half the time there's a gain that goes for more than 15-20 yards, it's on his watch. I do agree with the earlier coverage that he'd make a better safety than a corner.



Look, I'm not hating on Skye. I don't know the guy. I just dislike seeing him get abused like Balam's ass in pass coverage.


Fair points. Didn't know he was somewhat related. It was brutal watching him get abused last year. We will need speed v UT.
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frdbtr
Sky Povey is the type of player that BYU has to scheme for and not in a good way. When he is out there they have to call defenses that hide him and compensate for him. He needs to not see the field, hopefully we can keep our more talented guys from missing games due to suspension and keep him on the bench.
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Cougarbib
CrimsonCoug wrote:
FurriousCougar wrote:
The one thing I'll add is that he was in one of my classes last winter semester - only had about 20 people, so I'd often even sit next to him, and I gotta say - dude is tiny. Even for a safety, he is really really small. So it's almost surprising to me that his run stop ability is okay, but that his coverage is weak. I'd expect the opposite.


He's a hitter with heart and a sound mind and Broncos trust. Doesn't mean he has good hips or speed. He's a smaller Daniel Sorenson.


Smaller, slower and less talented DSorenson. Sure, Skye tries hard. Heck, so would I. That doesn't mean I should get significant game time.



This poll is terrible, simply terrible, because it follows the hyperbole of a terrible post. He's a Sr; I want him to get significant minutes against Savannah State. But if you ask if he should START again (and I realize he didn't start this one, but he started a good share last year), I think the poll might look differently. I would be quite satisfied if we didn't see much of him in the other games, because that would mean that those who are more talented and currently behind him are improving their knowledge of the schemes.



I trust the coaches--though sometimes there's a hint of nepotism.


You could always put up a poll more to your liking. Not sure who you think should have started instead of PoVey keeping in mind the bad boys of summer were not there. If the starters return and meet expectations, and stay healthy, and out of trouble, nobody will be calling for PoVey to start. Those are big ifs. I am sure glad he was on the field in the opener. He kept the game in front of him just as he has been instructed to do. Did not get suckered in on play action. Made sure tackles.



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