Texas Felons?

Two Texas wide receivers were just charged with felonies. Charged. Not convicted. Alleged felons. Thus the ?.



That possibly hurts depth at WR.



Kendall Sanders - started 7 games last year after being suspended for the opener last season for a DUI.



Montrel Meander - redshirt freshman.



Charlie Strong, back in June when the sexual assault and improper photography was alledged to have happened, said both players would be suspended if charged. They have now been charged.



Hopefully, Sanders will get more than an annual one game suspension - slow learner.

In other Texas news, a 5th year senior was quoted as saying to many teammates did not love football and the new staff is weeding them out. He said he offered to help weed them out. There is a lot of tension in the weight room. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to change the culture - hopefully at least week 3.



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Two Texas wide receivers were just charged with felonies. Charged. Not convicted. Alleged felons. Thus the ?.



That possibly hurts depth at WR.



Kendall Sanders - started 7 games last year after being suspended for the opener last season for a DUI.



Montrel Meander - redshirt freshman.



Charlie Strong, back in June when the sexual assault and improper photography was alledged to have happened, said both players would be suspended if charged. They have now been charged.



Hopefully, Sanders will get more than an annual one game suspension - slow learner.

Strong's Response:

"We've been monitoring and addressing the situation with Kendall (Sanders) and Montrel (Meander) since it was brought to our attention. It's been made clear to everyone on our team that treating women with respect is one of our core values, and I'm extremely disappointed that two young men in our program have been accused of not doing that. With the recent charges against them, they have been suspended indefinitely from our football team and will no longer participate in any team functions." - Charlie Strong

They're likely done for good and should be, regardless of what ends up happening legally. Thoughts and prayers to the victim in this situation.

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In other Texas news, a 5th year senior was quoted as saying to many teammates did not love football and the new staff is weeding them out. He said he offered to help weed them out. There is a lot of tension in the weight room. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to change the culture - hopefully at least week 3.



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Not to troll, Bib, and with all due respect, Quandre Diggs (who is actually a 4th year senior) said this. He was also speaking in the past tense, not the present. By all accounts, the players have come together. Many however, including myself, are waiting to see how long before it actually translates onto the field. No one is actually sure how deep rooted the culture of entitlement actually was/is and won't know until there are actual quantitative results on the field.



Diggs has been the most vocal about the differences between Mack Brown and Charlie Strong. Most notably, accountability. I've also been told that he's already helped weed out a couple of players. Some of whom are likely a part of the four, Strong recently mentioned to the Media, who are not allowed in the players locker room and have to dress for practice and workouts in a separate building.



That said, I've been told that Strong expected a far higher attrition rate than he ultimately had, and was far less than what he had at Louisville. That's a good sign, IMO, but still doesn't determine just how how much change has been, or may still need to be made.



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Hookem wrote:
Not to troll, Bib, and with all due respect, Quandre Diggs (who is actually a 4th year senior) said this. He was also speaking in the past tense, not the present. By all accounts, the players have come together. Many however, including myself, are waiting to see how long before it actually translates onto the field. No one is actually sure how deep rooted the culture of entitlement actually was/is and won't know until their are actual quantitative results on the field.



Diggs has been the most vocal about the differences between Mack Brown and Charlie Strong. Most notably, accountability. I've also been told that he's already helped weed out a couple of players. Some of whom are likely a part of the four, Strong recently mentioned to the Media, who are not allowed in the players locker room and have to dress for practice and workouts in a separate building.



That said, I've been told that Strong expected a far higher attrition rate than he ultimately had, and was far less than what he had at Louisville. That's a good sign, IMO, but still doesn't determine just how how much change has been, or may still need to be made.



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I appreciate your contributions Hookem. I compliment Strong and Texas for their integrity. That appears to be rare in college sports now days. I hope they win all but one game.

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I appreciate your contributions Hookem. I compliment Strong and Texas for their integrity. That appears to be rare in college sports now days. I hope they win all but one game.

Thanks, my friend. I appreciate you guys letting me be a participant and putting up with me.

Hookem wrote:

In other Texas news, a 5th year senior was quoted as saying to many teammates did not love football and the new staff is weeding them out. He said he offered to help weed them out. There is a lot of tension in the weight room. It will be interesting to see how long it takes to change the culture - hopefully at least week 3.



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Not to troll, Bib, and with all due respect, Quandre Diggs (who is actually a 4th year senior) said this. He was also speaking in the past tense, not the present. By all accounts, the players have come together. Many however, including myself, are waiting to see how long before it actually translates onto the field. No one is actually sure how deep rooted the culture of entitlement actually was/is and won't know until there are actual quantitative results on the field.



Diggs has been the most vocal about the differences between Mack Brown and Charlie Strong. Most notably, accountability. I've also been told that he's already helped weed out a couple of players. Some of whom are likely a part of the four, Strong recently mentioned to the Media, who are not allowed in the players locker room and have to dress for practice and workouts in a separate building.



That said, I've been told that Strong expected a far higher attrition rate than he ultimately had, and was far less than what he had at Louisville. That's a good sign, IMO, but still doesn't determine just how how much change has been, or may still need to be made.



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my bad. I remembered a 5 in the story. Read it again. I said he has been around the program since he was 5 - not 5 years. My nad. But he is clearly a team leader. And he does not mince words.



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Not a big deal at all, I shouldn't have even mentioned it. His brother is Quentin Jammer who played for us and for the Chargers for a number of years. He basically grew up with the program. This kid is one of my favorite Longhorns, and has started since day one. He deserves to have been in a better environment than he's been in the last 3 years. Crazy to think that Mack, from my understanding, had to be convinced to offer him a scholarship.

Well, Bib, add two more to the list.



Strong just kicked off two more players for violation of team rules. RB - Jalen Overstreet and DB - C. Collins.



Charlie is not messing around. These kids are getting a crash course on Accountability.

Wow, he is serious. I would hate to play Texas in a couple of years.

Hookem:



Well, Bib, add two more to the list.



Strong just kicked off two more players for violation of team rules. RB - Jalen Overstreet and DB - C. Collins.



Charlie is not messing around. These kids are getting a crash course on Accountability.



Bib:



This will be very good for Texas in the long run. I just hope it takes them three weeks to get firing on AL cylinders ad then run the table.



One of the receivers started several games last season. The other was a redshirt freshman.



Were either of these last two significant contributors?



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This will be very good for Texas in the long run. I just hope it takes them three weeks to get firing on AL cylinders ad then run the table.



One of the receivers started several games last season. The other was a redshirt freshman.



Were either of these last two significant contributors?



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Sanders will be missed. He quite possibly had the highest upside of all of our receivers. Very fast, dynamic player. But considering the offense/crime, I'm glad he's gone.



The other two weren't big contributors as of yet, but had the opportunity to be special players, but it probably would've been a season or two before that came to fruition.



There are rumors swirling that two more players may be out as well. Not sure if its real, or if people are just paranoid. Strong has made it clear that he has no problem cutting players loose.

Oh sheeeeesh. All things considered, how much does this impact the Texas O and wwhoAsh throws to?



Charlie Strong ain't messin' round.



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TulaneVandyRiceCoug wrote:
Oh sheeeeesh. All things considered, how much does this impact the Texas O and wwhoAsh throws to?



Charlie Strong ain't messin' round.



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Right now, Sanders is the biggest loss. Shipley and Marcus Johnson were ahead of him, but like I said above, he arguably had the most potential.



Reports are now that Senior RB - Joe Bergeron is gone as well. That makes 5 in the last 24 hours. Joe wasn't a starter but that was his own fault, he could've been had he put forth the work. He was held out of the spring game and was one of the players not allowed in the locker room for the spring and summer. Charlie had mentioned earlier this week that Joe had fought his way back and was doing well, but if the reports are true, apparently he screwed up since those comments.



Joe is one Diggs may have had a part in "weeding" out. Back during spring ball, a player tried to start a mutiny with some other players who weren't happy about the coaching change and the way Charlie was doing things. Reports have suggested that Joe was the ring leader. Charlie caught wind of it and squashed it before it gained any traction.



This is so much different than the way Mack ran things. Charlie is clearly sending a message days before camp that he isn't putting up with nonsense and they had better be ready to work.

Goodness gracious. Now hearing Senior DB - Josh Turner and Senior LB - Kendall Thompson have been dismissed as well. ***Just heard Thompson was medical (too many concussions)***



Josh Turner hurts. Was in the two deep, possibly a starter.



We're at 7 and counting. Looks like we may catch up to Louisville's attrition numbers in about a 24 hour span. Most of the guys today are seniors. Makes sense, I hadn't heard much about them during the summer workout sessions and 7 on 7's.

For the record - I love Texas. As a matter of fact, I just drove all all night to get to El Paso (got here at 3:00 am). My daughter is married to a fellow (a Capt/dentist) who is stationed @ Ft. Bliss. Anyway, my daughter is pregnant & ready to calve out. Going to have a little Texan here this weekend.



My brother lives in San Antonio. I'm a UT fan all year long - till the play the Y. Gotta hang with my Alma Mater.



P.S. I love the Texas independent spirit - and I am proud Gov. Perry has called out the Nat. Guard to help control their border. Go Texas! More power to ya!

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For the record - I love Texas. As a matter of fact, I just drove all all night to get to El Paso (got here at 3:00 am). My daughter is married to a fellow (a Capt/dentist) who is stationed @ Ft. Bliss. Anyway, my daughter is pregnant & ready to calve out. Going to have a little Texan here this weekend.



My brother lives in San Antonio. I'm a UT fan all year long - till the play the Y. Gotta hang with my Alma Mater.



P.S. I love the Texas independent spirit - and I am proud Gov. Perry has called out the Nat. Guard to help control their border. Go Texas! More power to ya!

Congrats on the little one!

All of these dismissals do not make Texas weaker, on the contrary, it makes them stronger. I can understand why Texas fans would be discouraged by losing some talented athletes, and I can also understand why some BYU fans hear this news and think "yes, we're going to win now" but neither conclusion is accurate. We saw last year that the formula of (no discipline(5* talent + entitlement) = 269 rushing yards for opponent's QB) and Coach Strong knows this. After he trims the fat and gets the remaining players committed and disciplined this team is going to go right back to Texas glory days, mark it down. I, as a cougar fan, am nervous at the prospect of playing a Charlie Strong team with Texas caliber talent, and am impressed with the style whereby he is cleaning house.



Good to see you back Hookem.

DeVon wrote:
All of these dismissals do not make Texas weaker, on the contrary, it makes them stronger. I can understand why Texas fans would be discouraged by losing some talented athletes, and I can also understand why some BYU fans hear this news and think "yes, we're going to win now" but neither conclusion is accurate. We saw last year that the formula of (no discipline(5* talent + entitlement) = 269 rushing yards for opponent's QB) and Coach Strong knows this. After he trims the fat and gets the remaining players committed and disciplined this team is going to go right back to Texas glory days, mark it down. I, as a cougar fan, am nervous at the prospect of playing a Charlie Strong team with Texas caliber talent, and am impressed with the style whereby he is cleaning house.



Good to see you back Hookem.

Thanks, my friend!



I completely agree with your comments. I've been a part of the burn it down element of the fan base.



Whatever it takes to get Texas back to where it use to be where no one questioned our toughness. I've hated the country club mentality over the past few years.



Just saw a segment on ESPN where one of the first things Charlie did was take the smoothie bar out of the weight room. A smoothie bar? Really? How embarrassing...



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Hearing now that potentially two starters on the o-line and speedy RB- Daje Johnson are on the chopping block.



Appears that all those being dismissed were on probation since the spring. They had a set of expectations including workout, 7 on 7 and class attendance, as well as drug tests, etc. They were up for a final evaluation before summer camp and so far none that I know of have passed, and therefore sent packing.



This should be an eye opener to anyone who thinks Mack Brown was treated unfairly or should've been given multiple chances to turn this around. A sound program involves so much more than just X's and O's, and great athletes. You may get by on that for a while, but after long it will eventually decay and crumble from the inside out. I'm not sure that 95% of the coaches in college ball would be willing to do what Strong is doing just days before summer camp. I'm impressed.