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Ranking of major sports. BYU #42. Half of Utah's score.

Complete bogus ranking. Few issues 1) looks at one year, 2) weights sports still not accurate - Football is not the same as women's bball the difference should be more pronounced, 3) how do they define WC (that is all other sports, many place Women's soccer is bigger than bball.



Anytime you have a major sport program ranking with: Stanford, Michigan State and Louisville ranking 1-3 and 10+ spots in front of Texas, Alabama, ND I must smirk.



Although seeing Utah so low is nice.

NDCougar wrote:
Complete bogus ranking. Few issues 1) looks at one year, 2) weights sports still not accurate - Football is not the same as women's bball the difference should be more pronounced, 3) how do they define WC (that is all other sports, many place Women's soccer is bigger than bball.



Anytime you have a major sport program ranking with: Stanford, Michigan State and Louisville ranking 1-3 and 10+ spots in front of Texas, Alabama, ND I must smirk.



Although seeing Utah so low is nice.

Yeah, Texas has really been the cream of the crop the last several years.

hawkwing wrote:

Complete bogus ranking. Few issues 1) looks at one year, 2) weights sports still not accurate - Football is not the same as women's bball the difference should be more pronounced, 3) how do they define WC (that is all other sports, many place Women's soccer is bigger than bball.



Anytime you have a major sport program ranking with: Stanford, Michigan State and Louisville ranking 1-3 and 10+ spots in front of Texas, Alabama, ND I must smirk.



Although seeing Utah so low is nice.

Yeah, Texas has really been the cream of the crop the last several years.

They are a cream of the crop program and will be at the top again. A few years of being down should not outweigh years of success.....they played for the NC 4 years ago and won an NC a decade ago with they years in between being full of top 5/10 finishes.

NDCougar wrote:
They are a cream of the crop program and will be at the top again. A few years of being down should not outweigh years of success

Unless you are ranking them on the basis of one year in isolation.....like this ranking of the best in college sports in 2013. Any reference to other years is automatically invalid and makes you look whiney.

.....they played for the NC 4 years ago and won an NC a decade ago with they years in between being full of top 5/10 finishes.

Just like that. How does that make them better or worse in 2013?

My point is a one year flash in the pan study does not mean a lot, there have been a lot of one year wonders (UConn in football, we will see what happens to UCF etc). Interesting to view but does not mean a lot.



I guess us Cougar fans should never mention the Lavell years or we will seem "whiney"......you sound like at Ute fan talking to a BYU fan when the BYU fan references years of success vs 2004-08. ;)



Secondarily, the weightings are way off. Why not include all sports if you are going to include women's BB and baseball you should include other sports (ex: Hockey is huge at BC, volleyball is very popular at BYU, lacrosse at mid-Atlantic schools), just weight them appropriately.

NDCougar wrote:
the weightings are way off. Why not include all sports if you are going to include women's BB and baseball you should include other sports (ex: Hockey is huge at BC, volleyball is very popular at BYU, lacrosse at mid-Atlantic schools), just weight them appropriately.

Fully agree. The formula should be Football x9, Basketball x3, and Wild Card/All other Sports x1, but no other sport can make up more than half of the wild card point and the highest aggregate you can get from the Wild Card (regardless of the number of other Olympic sports) is 1 point.



To help prove the point, who knew that Vandy won the baseball championship before reading the article? Who cared?



In other words, a university could win the national championship in every sport, including women's bball and baseball (and stink and football and men's bball) and it still wouldn't beat out an Elite 8 appearance or a top-25 college football finish.



The alternative scoring as outlined above, moves up Auburn, Ohio St., Missouri, Clemson, and UCF, quite dramatically. It also drops Stanford, Oklahoma St., Kentucky, and UConn.

NDCougar wrote:
My point is a one year flash in the pan study does not mean a lot, there have been a lot of one year wonders (UConn in football, we will see what happens to UCF etc). Interesting to view but does not mean a lot.

Unless you are only talking about that one year in isolation.....like the rankings here are trying to do. In that case, it matters quite a lot, in fact, it's the only thing that matters. I see you are now questioning the value of the rankings as a whole, but your earlier posts indicated you felt Texas, and ND (shocker, I know) among others should be ranked higher on the list, not for anything they did in 2013, but because of their white-male privilege past glories.

I guess us Cougar fans should never mention the Lavell years or we will seem "whiney"......you sound like at Ute fan talking to a BYU fan when the BYU fan references years of success vs 2004-08. ;)

If we're talking about which team was better in 2013, and I start talking about 1984 in support of my opinion, I give a free pass to any Ute fan to kick me in the nuts for being a total d-bag.

Personally, I think a ranking of overall success in college athletics should weigh all sports equally. To fans, only football may matter. But if you really want to measure how well schools do in all sports in a more pure sense, don't weight them. That would also help shore up the schools who still think amateur athletics is worth pursuing and continue to support non-revenue sports.