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Bama 2015

by Cougarbib · 5/29/2014

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Cougarbib
Yes. That Bama. CBS indicates Bama is desperate for a 2015 opponent. Indicates they may even be desperate enough to do a home and away. The article suggested they try to get BYU. Bama claims they cannot get anyone at all on such short notice and have called everyone. They already have an FCS opponent. May even be desperate enough to get a 2nd one according to the article.



Something tells me they have not tried offering BYU a home and away deal. If 2015 is typical, Bama probably has 6 home games already and could humble themselves and come to Provo first and then get us to come there later.



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RobertMRogers
Looks like September 19th would work for both... Make it happen!
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scott715
Bama doesn't want to leave their home.
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NDCougar
scott715 wrote:
Bama doesn't want to leave their home.


Yep, plus what is the upside to playing BYU? Travel cross country (you don't see top tier SEC teams do that often), play in non-core recruiting location, with little national attention if they win (assuming the BYU program does not have a huge year next year) and potentially play a solid team that if the chips fall right could give them a run (not likely but possible)......thus a lot to lose with little upside. Why not just play at home, rest up for the SEC schedule and get an automatic W.



Bama could write a check and get someone to come to AL.
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Cougarbib
NDCougar wrote:
Bama doesn't want to leave their home.


Yep, plus what is the upside to playing BYU? Travel cross country (you don't see top tier SEC teams do that often), play in non-core recruiting location, with little national attention if they win (assuming the BYU program does not have a huge year next year) and potentially play a solid team that if the chips fall right could give them a run (not likely but possible)......thus a lot to lose with little upside. Why not just play at home, rest up for the SEC schedule and get an automatic W.



Bama could write a check and get someone to come to AL.


Go to CBS and read the article. Their AD said they have called everybody. They are desperate to get someone. The article indicates they are possibly desperate enough to give a home and away or schedule a 2nd FCS opponent - 2015 is not business as usual because they need a game and most 1 and done schools are already booked.

Bama AD indicated they want someone now because it gets very expensive to buy out or up the later it gets.



Normally, I agree that a 1 and done would be all BYU could even hope for here. It turns out that we have already done so many of those, that we do not have a road game to give unless we payoff one of our road opponents to cancel and pay up someone to come to Provo.



IIRC, all teams are required to play a minimum number of home games so that some schools do not go roll over for someone every single game.



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Cougarbib wrote:
scott715 wrote:
Bama doesn't want to leave their home.


Yep, plus what is the upside to playing BYU? Travel cross country (you don't see top tier SEC teams do that often), play in non-core recruiting location, with little national attention if they win (assuming the BYU program does not have a huge year next year) and potentially play a solid team that if the chips fall right could give them a run (not likely but possible)......thus a lot to lose with little upside. Why not just play at home, rest up for the SEC schedule and get an automatic W.



Bama could write a check and get someone to come to AL.


Go to CBS and read the article. Their AD said they have called everybody. They are desperate to get someone. The article indicates they are possibly desperate enough to give a home and away or schedule a 2nd FCS opponent - 2015 is not business as usual because they need a game and most 1 and done schools are already booked.

Bama AD indicated they want someone now because it gets very expensive to buy out or up the later it gets.



Normally, I agree that a 1 and done would be all BYU could even hope for here. It turns out that we have already done so many of those, that we do not have a road game to give unless we payoff one of our road opponents to cancel and pay up someone to come to Provo.



IIRC, all teams are required to play a minimum number of home games so that some schools do not go roll over for someone every single game.



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I had not read it, sorry. I am not sure they called every team in the country, and circle of "everybody we know" could be exaggerated......I don't buy it. He probably is priming everyone for a really bad opponent. If they were truly distressed BYU should make an offer and BYU could get creative to make it happen......nothing better than a distressed seller.



If BYU wants to play top guys you have to take the opportunities. Looking at the schedule there is no way Michigan or Nebraska switch venues, the other teams would need to be given something very enticing to do so. Given the independent status of BYU I would guess they would not want to ruffle any feathers with any programs nor conferences.
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scott715
Read between the lines. He asked everyone to come play at Bama and got no takers. He called everyone for that offer. Now they are about to consider a 1 and 1. Probably to start at Bama and then Bama will stiff that school. They already owe us a return game from way back when. I would take the 1 and 1 if they come to Prove first.
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SpiffCoug
Yep, they're so desparate that they still want to control the negotiations.



I'd propose this to Alabama. 2015 in Provo. 2016 in Jerry's World. 2017 in Tuscaloosa.
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NDCougar
SpiffCoug wrote:
Yep, they're so desparate that they still want to control the negotiations.



I'd propose this to Alabama. 2015 in Provo. 2016 in Jerry's World. 2017 in Tuscaloosa.




I like the neutral site angle. Could be attractive and increase the opportunity for $$$, plus give added exposure to TX recruits.



Why not offer a one and done neutral site, somewhere in TX. Win/win for both sides, other then us having a tough start to next season.
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Fido
The CBS Sports article says that "Alabama is expected to play an FCS opponent in mid-November". So with their 4 conference home games, ULM, and a November FCS game then Alabama is looking for a 7th home game--like many of the P5 have become accustomed to.

BYU currently has published 5 home games and 6 road games. I don't blame BYU for not wanting to sign up and play 5 home games with 7 road games including Nebraska, Michigan, AND Alabama. The alternative is to postpone one of your road games (Southern Miss, San Jose State, or UNLV) and rearrange your schedule since Alabama will want this game in September when you are already playing Nebraska, Boise State, and Michigan.

There is also speculation that BYU already has an agreement for the 12th game and are waiting for media day to announce it. If that is the case then the only way to take advantage of this is to delay or cancel a game with someone else. Which certainly puts them in a bad way to fill the gap. And it really doesn't sound like Alabama is very interested in doing a home/away series unless it was the only possible way to fill the schedule. Even then, I would hold no confidence that Alabama wouldn't buy out the return trip to Provo anyhow.
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Lawboy
IF BYU agrees to a 1 and done @Bama in 2015, they should be fired. Already have roadies at Michigan and Nebraska that year and only 5 home games scheduled. Adding a 3rd roadie to Bama would be suicide.



Come to Provo or forget it. Have to be smart with scheduling.
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Lawboy wrote:
IF BYU agrees to a 1 oand done with bama in 2015, they should be fired. Already have roadies at Michigan and Nebraska that year and only 5 home games scheduled. Adding a 3rd roadie to Bama would be suicide.



Come to Provo or forget it. Have to be smart with scheduling.


Completely agree.



Come to Provo Bama, time to put your big boy pants on.
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hawkwing wrote:
IF BYU agrees to a 1 oand done with bama in 2015, they should be fired. Already have roadies at Michigan and Nebraska that year and only 5 home games scheduled. Adding a 3rd roadie to Bama would be suicide.



Come to Provo or forget it. Have to be smart with scheduling.


Completely agree.



Come to Provo Bama, time to put your big boy pants on.


No chance it happens then. If Bama is willing to go on the road it will be in the south east for an automatic win vs traveling to Provo to play in front of 65k fans.



Best option is neutral site game.
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NDCougar wrote:
Lawboy wrote:
IF BYU agrees to a 1 oand done with bama in 2015, they should be fired. Already have roadies at Michigan and Nebraska that year and only 5 home games scheduled. Adding a 3rd roadie to Bama would be suicide.



Come to Provo or forget it. Have to be smart with scheduling.


Completely agree.



Come to Provo Bama, time to put your big boy pants on.


No chance it happens then. If Bama is willing to go on the road it will be in the south east for an automatic win vs traveling to Provo to play in front of 65k fans.



Best option is neutral site game.


I agree. They are cowards.
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scott715
I looked at their schedule. They open in Texas agains Wisconsin and then they have a home with a FCS. That gives them 5 home and 1 neutral. They want a home game just like we do. Nothing will happen here.
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