Recruiting weekend

So I know this week was dismal for recruiting, with Mama not coming, all QB recruits bailing, Dilosa committing to Missouri, Dale switching to Purdue, and Walton canceling his trip.



On the positive side, if we can get Blackmon, Sutton, Nacua, and Kaufusi on board, we can still have a respectable class. Throw in a JC surprise, and I'm OK, overall, with the results.



Here's to crossing my fingers this week...

There are 4 scholarships for next year. Maybe 6. And 10 spots for 2016 for guys going on missions right away.



I think Nacua and Kaufusi come. Not sure what their mission plans are. Blackmon sounds like he made up his mind - I hope it is BYU. Sutton says he's down to BYU or Colorado so there is a really good shot. I don't know what to think of Gulley. He'd be buried on the DL for 2-3 years so I'd almost rather get a JC guy that can contribute right away. There will be another guy just as good we can get from a JC in 2 years.

I read somewhere that Nacua might have lost his offer. Dug around TBS and couldn't see anything. Maybe someone could clarify that for me.



What I am looking at in regards to this class is who will actually play anytime soon. A good chunk of these kids will go straight on a mission and might even red shirt when they get home. I'm not to exited about 2018 football yet. Blackman is the recruit I really hope we can snag. He'd be an instant upgrade in the speed dept.

Sounds like the We Don't Go Bowling Utes are going to have a higher rated recruiting class - again. IDK. I did not go look. Just starting to smell like it.



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Cougarbib wrote:
Sounds like the We Don't Go Bowling Utes are going to have a higher rated recruiting class - again. IDK. I did not go look. Just starting to smell like it.



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Utah has a really low ranked class this year just like the Y. Scout had them Tied for 67th with Colorado. Byu was next up at #69. Both schools with one 4 star player and a handful of 3 star guys. Byu lacks in the overall number of recruits while Utah has a lot of 2 star guys.

stgeorgefan wrote:

Sounds like the We Don't Go Bowling Utes are going to have a higher rated recruiting class - again. IDK. I did not go look. Just starting to smell like it.



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Utah has a really low ranked class this year just like the Y. Scout had them Tied for 67th with Colorado. Byu was next up at #69. Both schools with one 4 star player and a handful of 3 star guys. Byu lacks in the overall number of recruits while Utah has a lot of 2 star guys.

Scout has Utah at 64 and us at 70

Rivals has Utah at 57 and us at 80

Utah as of the last few years seems to jump up another 10-15 spots after signing day.

nickdutson wrote:

Cougarbib wrote:
Sounds like the We Don't Go Bowling Utes are going to have a higher rated recruiting class - again. IDK. I did not go look. Just starting to smell like it.

Utah has a really low ranked class this year just like the Y. Scout had them Tied for 67th with Colorado. Byu was next up at #69. Both schools with one 4 star player and a handful of 3 star guys. Byu lacks in the overall number of recruits while Utah has a lot of 2 star guys.

Scout has Utah at 64 and us at 70

Rivals has Utah at 57 and us at 80

Utah as of the last few years seems to jump up another 10-15 spots after signing day.

The difference in ranking is misleading. If you look at average stars BYU is ahead (just barely) with both scout and rivals. It's the effect of the change in missionary age.

Exactly, Both rating service give points per recruit, then weigh the class based upon total points. So larger classes are rated higher.



If you review the classes based upon average star rating per recruit, BYU is rated higher right now than Utah.



However, neither are in the top-40, and that is the problem. Recruitng services are biased by region, but top-40 should still be the goal.

If they get Mama, Blackmon, Nacua, Kaufusi, and Sutton the class would be top 40 by average star rating. Even without Mama it would be close - need to be around 2.85.



Add Jordan Leslie for a year and I think that would be pretty solid.



Also I think the recruiting services mostly get it right by region. If anything they undervalue talent in the south.

nickdutson wrote:

Cougarbib wrote:
Sounds like the We Don't Go Bowling Utes are going to have a higher rated recruiting class - again. IDK. I did not go look. Just starting to smell like it.



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Utah has a really low ranked class this year just like the Y. Scout had them Tied for 67th with Colorado. Byu was next up at #69. Both schools with one 4 star player and a handful of 3 star guys. Byu lacks in the overall number of recruits while Utah has a lot of 2 star guys.

Scout has Utah at 64 and us at 70

Rivals has Utah at 57 and us at 80

Utah as of the last few years seems to jump up another 10-15 spots after signing day.

This is crazy, i went on scout this morning before posting those numbers. Went back and they have changed to what you put. Some mid day recruits sign and adjust the #'s :skeptic:

The missionary age change hurt Byu's overall number pretty hard. Not only are we limited on the number of kids signing BUT it seems like we really broadened our recruiting pool this year. Lots of under recruited Non LDS kids; we haven't been that successful so far. Hurts the overall strengths as well.



Next years class is supposed to be small as well.

Lawboy wrote:
Exactly, Both rating service give points per recruit, then weigh the class based upon total points. So larger classes are rated higher.



If you review the classes based upon average star rating per recruit, BYU is rated higher right now than Utah.



However, neither are in the top-40, and that is the problem. Recruitng services are biased by region, but top-40 should still be the goal.

They have beaten us almost every year for a decade or so. We did not go up or down by much. They shot way up. They appear to be on the way back down. May that trend continue!



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The missionary age change hurt Byu's overall number pretty hard. Not only are we limited on the number of kids signing BUT it seems like we really broadened our recruiting pool this year. Lots of under recruited Non LDS kids; we haven't been that successful so far. Hurts the overall strengths as well.



Next years class is supposed to be small as well.

You would think that with small recruiting classes that BYU would have a much higher average star rating - being very picky about who we offer.



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Sounds like a great weekend. Commitments: Jaterrius Gulley, Isaiah Kaufusi, Jordan Leslie transfer, Leiataua and Mama thinking about it. And that is just so far.

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Sounds like a great weekend. Commitments: Jaterrius Gulley, Isaiah Kaufusi, Jordan Leslie transfer, Leiataua and Mama thinking about it. And that is just so far.

I don't like the quote how BYU is not even mentioned. I hope he ends up at BYU, but I still think it is a stretch and he will be a Trojan......here is to hoping I am wrong.

"My family, they joke around and say 'Stay home, go to SC.' Or when Alabama was on a big run they said 'Go to the No. 1 team.' They know I will make the right decision," Mama said. "My parents want me to make my own decision and do the homework on the school. There's not really pressure from them, just lots of support."

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How about a wish list:



http://lawlessrepublic.com/2014/02/03/byu-recruiting-national-signing-day-wishlist/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://byu.scout.com/a.z?s=338&p=8&c=1&nid=6813015" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is it wrong to pray for warner to come to BYU lol..

"Pray not that you may consume it upon your lusts." ;-)

There are multiple "sources" indicating that DE Isaiah Nacua may still be leaning BYU and that the issues in the past have been worked through..........I sure hope so and will keep my fingers crossed

the loyal cougars articles states that other recruits have stated that they would be surprised if Leiataua didn't come to byu. he was very into the game at byu. he has also stated that is it crazy for him to pass up a one time opportunity at an eduction like stanford to go somewhere where he is most comfortable.



byu has done a good job, as good as they can with him. he is most comfortable at BYU but is afraid to give up a free education to Stanford. I would struggle with that as well. still for undergrad i would always pick byu.



mama wont come. i will be shocked. i think that he goes bama even though most think usc.