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Which is the real BYU team

by byucougar1 · 1/6/2014

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byucougar1
There appeared to be several reasons why BYU beat SD (87-53) - 34 pt margin????



As Rose had stated, prior to the game the team had identified with an offense first mentality and defense second. They would look for every opportunity to score (sometimes with questionable shots and jacking them up without a conscience), but rarely making defensive stops. When they weren't shooting the ball well nor distributing the ball well, they often got behind rather quickly, and never seemed to recover.



However, against SD they went into the game with the intent to play man-to-man and focus on defense first. Rose stated in the post game interview that “We were a defensive team playing with urgency on every defensive possession. We need to bottle that and make that become a huge part of the identity of this group.” I concur and believe that Halford's contribution was not just on offense (28 points) but with his defense on Johnny Dee (2-12), and the spark that it gave the team. His style of play carried over to the others, and it showed with their confidence and tenacity that continued throughout the game. While Halford may not score 28 points again, I believe that his defensive energy is contagious and hopefully this will carry over to all the starters and subs going forward.



On the offensive side of the ball, the Cougs were back into the distribution of the ball (sharing and resulting assists) instead of 1 shot and done. They had 25 assists and shot 53 percent from the field. Much of that can be attributed to looking for the open man and getting/taking a good shot.



It also seemed that when Carlino played off the bench, he looked to find the open man first before jacking up shots from wherever he was on the court. It resulted in stability and a continuance of the type of play that had been established. Hopefully, the message has been received.



Not sure what Pepperdine and LMU have planned for revenge weekend, but hopefully BYU brings the same defensive mindset to these games so that their PGs don't go off again for career highs in points/game.
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byucougar1
Love the quote from Nick Gagon of the DesNews:



"Mark down January 4, 2014, as the day the 2013-14 BYU men’s basketball team discovered “defense” — this idea that if you try hard to stop the other team from scoring it improves your chances of winning." Defense, what a concept - it's what the Celtics and Lakers understood during their many storied championship series.
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snoscythe
The real team?



Depends on if we are playing at home or away. That's my only take-away from our punking USD in the Marriott Center--a team now 0-3 in the conference who also lost at home to the 5-10 University of Illinois at Chicago Flames.
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Gunk
snoscythe wrote:
The real team?



Depends on if we are playing at home or away. That's my only take-away from our punking USD in the Marriott Center--a team now 0-3 in the conference who also lost at home to the 5-10 University of Illinois at Chicago Flames.

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I like the defense first mentality, but regardless of the mentality we likely would have plunked San Diego.



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SpiffCoug
How much zone did BYU play? seemed like we were in man-to-man most of the night. Rose has fiddled with the zone the last several years and it's only really worked when he had an exceptional perimeter defender like Abouo or Emery to close out on shots.
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SpiffCoug wrote:
How much zone did BYU play? seemed like we were in man-to-man most of the night. Rose has fiddled with the zone the last several years and it's only really worked when he had an exceptional perimeter defender like Abouo or Emery to close out on shots.

And a scorer that could make up any deficit the poor defense caused.



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mizzoucoug
Been saying it. If we're not playing man then there's no reason to play the game. We will get abused every time. We "beat" Oregon on their court playing man. We came close against others playing zone, but ultimately never got any stops because it doesn't work when it matters. Our offense is what kept us in those games.
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byucougar1
Let's not punk SD too much. They lost to SDSU by 1 point this year, kept their backcourt who decimated the Cougs last year (they beat BYU twice), upgraded another perimter scorer, and added a big man. No one expected a 34 point blowout (even at home). Besides, BYU lost at home last year to a number of teams (St. Mary's, Gonzaga, San Francisco, Baylor) so it is not like they are the Marriot Center juggernaut.



They played man-to-man instead of zone, and their perimeter defense as a group lead to SD shooting 2-of-17 (11.8 percent) on 3-pointers compared to Pepperdine who shot 54.2 percent from 3 in their victory. Their D effort shows a renwed emphasis in prioritizing defense.



Another big factor was that Mika and Austin stayed out of foul trouble which allowed them to control the paint, defend against drives and tip-ins and garner rebounds. Additionally, I believe that KC is settling in more on his role at PG (less turnovers and forced shots, letting the game come to him), and it is showing in his on-court decisions on whether to shoot or dish to teammates. If he improves in his FT shooting, he will be deadly.



While I understand this is one game, the real test will be to see if their defensive approach will remain a point of focus as they seek revenge in their loss to Pepperdine.
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mizzoucoug
byucougar1 wrote:
If he improves in his FT shooting, he will be deadly.


Unfortunately this will not happen unless he starts shooting granny style. He shoots FT's like a girl--not a joke.
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Cougs_Rule
mizzoucoug wrote:
If he improves in his FT shooting, he will be deadly.


Unfortunately this will not happen unless he starts shooting granny style. He shoots FT's like a girl--not a joke.


Almost as bad as Shawn Marion's shot......except SMarion makes his with regularity. There's hope.
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