Halford

Love the guy, but don't think he's going to go for 11/16 very often.



Great defender, certainly needs more minutes. Has a great basketball mind.



Will be interesting to see how soon the wolves turn on this guy when he goes 6-18 with a couple turnovers.

As long as he plays within himself, which MC was hardly ever doing.....

But look at all his shooting percentages--blows MC away this year.

Look at points per minute.

THe dude has been showing fairly well all season. Rose is slow to change, as most coaches are. But Rose has also modulated his O schemes as of tonight as well. He is finally playing half court sets and not just run and gun.

Of course Halford will regress to the mean a bit. But he didnt go that much above his averages in this game.

AND all these points while chasing around the USD dude (Dee) who has killed BYU on threes the last two years.

BYI finally has a shooting guard who is legit threat at the three ball (and the pump fake 3 and step up 2) and can now run an ACTUAL offense that helps free up the middle.

Teams will now key on Halford, but that will help free up Tyler and it all starts to come together.

Halford is a baller! TE might be his career high tonight, but he is a threat that BYU hasn't had since MC was hitting from outside...which was.....h,mmmm can't think abut when he posed a consistent outside threat.

Cougs_Rule wrote:
As long as he plays within himself, which MC was hardly ever doing.....

But look at all his shooting percentages--blows MC away this year.

Look at points per minute.

THe dude has been showing fairly well all season. Rose is slow to change, as most coaches are. But Rose has also modulated his O schemes as of tonight as well. He is finally playing half court sets and not just run and gun.

Of course Halford will regress to the mean a bit. But he didnt go that much above his averages in this game.

AND all these points while chasing around the USD dude (Dee) who has killed BYU on threes the last two years.

BYI finally has a shooting guard who is legit threat at the three ball (and the pump fake 3 and step up 2) and can now run an ACTUAL offense that helps free up the middle.

Teams will now key on Halford, but that will help free up Tyler and it all starts to come together.

Halford is a baller! TE might be his career high tonight, but he is a threat that BYU hasn't had since MC was hitting from outside...which was.....h,mmmm can't think abut when he posed a consistent outside threat.

Overall agree. Sad thing is, BYU has a ton of "ballers". KC has really impressed this year, MC, when he is in control, is one of the best (and already has BYU's assist record under his belt). Haws of course is good for a few points a night. But for whatever reason, they just haven't played well as a team yet. Tonight was the first time I've seen any semblance of non-playground basketball. It was awesome. Now, whether BYU will continue to play that well when better teams attempt to lock down the half court game is yet to be determined.



I'd love to see more inside-out game. Quick touches inside, if nothing is there, kick it back out and swing it around the perimeter for open shot, or another dump down low.



And as much as you rip on Carlino (and I was there with you last year, calling for Cusick), he has knocked down his fair share of 3s and practically won a few games for BYU (including last year against Utah). But he does play out of control, wish he could put it all together for a season.

All true. And think about Tyler and Skyler as primary scorers and Kyle and MC as primary distributors. Then, yes, get the inside out going with Mika and this team can start to look like a bball team.

Not to leave out Mizzou's favorite calling card and that is that BYU played ALOT OF MAN D. Skyler was all over Mr Dee!

Cougs_Rule wrote:
All true. And think about Tyler and Skyler as primary scorers and Kyle and MC as primary distributors. Then, yes, get the inside out going with Mika and this team can start to look like a bball team.

Not to leave out Mizzou's favorite calling card and that is that BYU played ALOT OF MAN D. Skyler was all over Mr Dee!

Totally agree with Mizzou on that one. Why BYU played so much zone when it was killing them, I'll never understand. If you have to sit some guys because they can't keep up, it's better than zone against a hot 3-point shooting team.

There are some pretty unflattering posts out there about Carlino and his parents- especially his dad. MC will now nerd to figure out how to do Iit on his own and thus may improve - humble himself - and become more integral to the tesm. Rich parents. Too much too fast. Man among boys in middle school. Inconsistent since. I hope he figures things out.



Halford will get a lot of attention in future games - if he plays unselfish, someone else will be open.



But with increased minutes, he will get to the FT line - and make most of them. Better shooter than pretty much anyone on the team except - maybe - Haws.



If Austin can get open and shoot more, his FG% is above 50% and that could really help this team. I looked at the data earlier today ad the data said Halford, Austin, Winder, and Sharp need more shots. Barkley and Carlino both needed a lot less shots.



Only Haws and Halford are money at the FT line. Carlino is decent. Everyone else is poor.



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Austin has good % bc he's taking most hots around rim, put backs, etc.

Halford is a legend.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5qeGyfm_Hk



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Austin has good % bc he's taking most hots around rim, put backs, etc.

Exactly. It would be nice if he could get fed inside 2 or 3 more shots per game.



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Austin has good % bc he's taking most hots around rim, put backs, etc.

Exactly. It would be nice if he could get fed inside 2 or 3 more shots per game.



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I'd be OK with Mike or Austin getting 10-15 more looks a game, even if it means they make a move and kick it out.

I did not know Carlino would not start last night, and I was actually going to post this last week.



Half way through his junior year, Carlino has proven he cannot shoot, his shooting percentage is awful; in part because he throws up a ton of shots he should not be taking. But if a player of his age, and experience, has a low shooting percentage, he probably is not going to improve this year...or next. Rose should look to someone else to start.



Carlino is a pretty good basketball player, but if you're going to be a D 1 player, you gotta shoot better than 20%.



I'm shocked by Halford's performance last night, wow! a bench, role player, comes in and dominates the game? The kid can shoot...and he can play defense. Haws's numbers are down because teams are scheming to stop him...and nobody else can shoot for BYU. Halford will change all that, double team Haws and Halford will make you pay...and pay.

It'll be interesting to see how Halford responds after a few games when teams start really accounting for him in the game plan. These next few games he'll be able to catch teams unprepared. But then the tape will be out on him. How does he up his game?

golong wrote:
I did not know Carlino would not start last night, and I was actually going to post this last week.



Half way through his junior year, Carlino has proven he cannot shoot, his shooting percentage is awful; in part because he throws up a ton of shots he should not be taking. But if a player of his age, and experience, has a low shooting percentage, he probably is not going to improve this year...or next. Rose should look to someone else to start.



Carlino is a pretty good basketball player, but if you're going to be a D 1 player, you gotta shoot better than 20%.



I'm shocked by Halford's performance last night, wow! a bench, role player, comes in and dominates the game? The kid can shoot...and he can play defense. Haws's numbers are down because teams are scheming to stop him...and nobody else can shoot for BYU. Halford will change all that, double team Haws and Halford will make you pay...and pay.

With all due respect, where have you been for many games of this year? This isn't a huge surprise to me re: Halford. This kid had a few 30 point games as a fifth grader. He has the highest shooting percentage at BYU before last night ever happened?

THe best things that happened to him was that he started over MC last night but even more that Rose defended that GFGH wasn't working anymore. Halford played a little out of control in the run and gun offense and under control with Roses O last night.

Everything else you said about MC and TH I totally agree with. But hopefully, not only will Tyler get freed up a little, if MC stays within himself, he can still chip in 10+ points and maybe even get hot. But until MC realizes that he is not THE MAN, which I think he figured out last night and the last few games, he will be his own worst enemy. And then add an inside out game and this team has the talent to turn things around.

SpiffCoug wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how Halford responds after a few games when teams start really accounting for him in the game plan. These next few games he'll be able to catch teams unprepared. But then the tape will be out on him. How does he up his game?

Me thinks the tape is already being looked at by The Waves. Of course, more games equals more tape and more opportunity to see how other teams handle Halford.



There will still be opportunities for Carlino to rest Collinsworth and if BYU goes small when Austin or Mika get in foul trouble.



It is all about shot selection with Carlino. If he is open and in range and in the flow and not tired - he shoots much better.



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golong wrote:
I did not know Carlino would not start last night, and I was actually going to post this last week.



Half way through his junior year, Carlino has proven he cannot shoot, his shooting percentage is awful; in part because he throws up a ton of shots he should not be taking. But if a player of his age, and experience, has a low shooting percentage, he probably is not going to improve this year...or next. Rose should look to someone else to start.



Carlino is a pretty good basketball player, but if you're going to be a D 1 player, you gotta shoot better than 20%.



I'm shocked by Halford's performance last night, wow! a bench, role player, comes in and dominates the game? The kid can shoot...and he can play defense. Haws's numbers are down because teams are scheming to stop him...and nobody else can shoot for BYU. Halford will change all that, double team Haws and Halford will make you pay...and pay.

I'm not surprised at all. He has a very good first step and play under control and with a lot of aggression. His shot hasn't been money this year but you could tell he's confident with it. We'll see how consistent his game will be now that he has upped fan and team expectations.



I'm not sure anyone will scheme for Halford. There are other players that are still going to garner more attention unless he goes on a Linsanity run or something.



Good game. Bad opponent. We'll see what he does next time around.

mizzoucoug wrote:

I did not know Carlino would not start last night, and I was actually going to post this last week.



Half way through his junior year, Carlino has proven he cannot shoot, his shooting percentage is awful; in part because he throws up a ton of shots he should not be taking. But if a player of his age, and experience, has a low shooting percentage, he probably is not going to improve this year...or next. Rose should look to someone else to start.



Carlino is a pretty good basketball player, but if you're going to be a D 1 player, you gotta shoot better than 20%.



I'm shocked by Halford's performance last night, wow! a bench, role player, comes in and dominates the game? The kid can shoot...and he can play defense. Haws's numbers are down because teams are scheming to stop him...and nobody else can shoot for BYU. Halford will change all that, double team Haws and Halford will make you pay...and pay.

I'm not surprised at all. He has a very good first step and play under control and with a lot of aggression. His shot hasn't been money this year but you could tell he's confident with it. We'll see how consistent his game will be now that he has upped fan and team expectations.



I'm not sure anyone will scheme for Halford. There are other players that are still going to garner more attention unless he goes on a Linsanity run or something.



Good game. Bad opponent. We'll see what he does next time around.

Beg to differ. You will see an immediate change. Teams have had a simple game plan since the Utah game. Get back quickly to defend the interior and pack it tight and beg BYU to shoot the 3. They either will not take that risk with Halford on the floor, or will adjust immediately when he hits his 2nd 3.



They will not be able to focus as much on Haws.





This all assumes Mika is ok. The jury is still out on Mika. Pepperdine will also red to assume that Halford will be all over their best shooting guard and thus they will not be able to have him fire up uncontested 3s all night.



If Mika is OK - Mika, Haws, or Halford are going to get open shots - if Collinsworth distributes the ball effectively.



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Halford had one good game as a starter and we're already hailing him as the savior of this team? We haven't seen him after consistent minutes nor against top talent. Not getting on the guy, but expectations should be tempered.



I suspect there will be some delay in teams' preping for Halford, waiting also to see if it was the best night Halford had to offer or whether just the beginning.



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Gunk wrote:
Halford had one good game as a starter and we're already hailing him as the savior of this team? We haven't seen him after consistent minutes nor against top talent. Not getting on the guy, but expectations should be tempered.



I suspect there will be some delay in teams' preping for Halford, waiting also to see if it was the best night Halford had to offer or whether just the beginning.



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Not me. I am assuming we just saw a career night that will stand up until he graduates. But opponents did see that it you LEAVE HIM WIDE OPEN, he can shoot. Teams have been leaving the 3 wide open for BYU because Carlino was missing it even when wide open. They will make that adjustment immediately or right after he knocks down his 2nd wide open 3 at the latest. It mattereth not the quality of our opponent's defense if they choose to pack it in and ignore the 3.



BTW - San Diego was the leading defense in conference coming into that game - left the 3 open - paid dearly.



You may note that I predicted a close win unless BYU started hitting the open 3s. Predicted a blowout if the 3s started dropping.



Opponents have started to bank on missed outside shots and FTs. Cannot assume that now.



They will actually guard Halford. Not double. But they will put someone on him instead of packing that guy in to prevent drives or passes inside.



Teams can easily shut down one or the other. Different ballgame if you have both.



So, pray for Mika ' s hip - or we have little inside game.



I just expect Halford to hit above 35% on threes and near 50% overall and contribute over 10 as a starter. Any more will be gravy.



Add 10 plus from KC and 12 plus from EM and around 20 from TH and 15 from everyone else, as minimums and BYU just nerds to play defense.



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Yes, prior to last game they have been nerds on Defense. ;-)

But Halford is much more than a 3 point shooter. His pump fake 3 and step in for a two is classic ball and nobody does it better on this team, not even Haws. AND, halford can take it to the rim as well. So, a legit triple threat guy. Maybe this was his career high. But he has a much better, more predictable, non-gimmicky game than Matt will ever have.

Cougs_Rule wrote:
Yes, prior to last game they have been nerds on Defense. ;-)

But Halford is much more than a 3 point shooter. His pump fake 3 and step in for a two is classic ball and nobody does it better on this team, not even Haws. AND, halford can take it to the rim as well. So, a legit triple threat guy. Maybe this was his career high. But he has a much better, more predictable, non-gimmicky game than Matt will ever have.

Craig O should be over here saying I told you so wasn't he calling for more Halford minutes from the very beginning.