Quit that stupid BCS talk

One problem we all tend to have, is that before big games we all draw up imaginative Kolobs of a millennial Cougar reign as unconquerable football team. Frequently, we lose those games... So let's cut out that BCS crap, tell Bronco that it's OK to put 100 points on Idaho State and focus on winning today.

The loss to UV in reality will be the sure fire knock-out criteria even if we were in the top 14 and technically eligible. IF... if... the UV is not a sure knock-off, it will certainly be Idaho State, essentially we have one less game this year, our schedule is no nowhere close the toughest we have ever had (I hate this typical American exaggeration, everything for y'all over there has to be in the superlative, stupid talk at the beginning of the year...). We would need a perfect storm, sorry, as optimistic as I think I am, I am just too realistic also. It'll be tough enough to win today and to win out and should all that happen, let's set it all up for a potential BSC run next year and a NC year the year after (there is my optimism!)

That statement has more holes in it then a doughnut shop..first UV loss would not knock us out friend..If we get to 14 look at the other options the fiesta bowl would have 1...Second BYU would finish the season on fire that scores mega points, the Idaho st comment just awful...Is FSU not going to the title game because the play Idaho 90% of the top 25 plays a 1-AA teams it does not matter.Most football talking heads say 1 loss at this point BYU would be sitting pretty..Part of the fun is playing the what if game yes a lot of people still think BYU has an outside shot at the BCS not just BYU fans..

I know it's fun to speculate, but it's really premature. I don't think it should even be a matter ford discussion unless we win the next two games. If that happens, then we can resurrect the topic.

If we win out, the talking heads will be all over it even if we don't make it. We have the potential to do it. If we win today, we will have a very good chance of winning out. It comes down to today. Can't wait and I will continue to dream. Hope our last remaining recruits are watching today.

This. However, this s why I asked the question in another thread, "would this be Broncos biggest win? In context, it is huge. Sets up winning out, BCS legit talk next year (play-off notwithstanding) some this year, Taysom on radar big time for next years Heisman, and some this year. A win at Camp Randall is huge!

But, yes, the prize here is only token mention of BCS talk. That's all we'd sniff. But it smells good!

cougarsunited wrote:
One problem we all tend to have, is that before big games we all draw up imaginative Kolobs of a millennial Cougar reign as unconquerable football team. Frequently, we lose those games... So let's cut out that BCS crap, tell Bronco that it's OK to put 100 points on Idaho State and focus on winning today.

The loss to UV in reality will be the sure fire knock-out criteria even if we were in the top 14 and technically eligible. IF... if... the UV is not a sure knock-off, it will certainly be Idaho State, essentially we have one less game this year, our schedule is no nowhere close the toughest we have ever had (I hate this typical American exaggeration, everything for y'all over there has to be in the superlative, stupid talk at the beginning of the year...). We would need a perfect storm, sorry, as optimistic as I think I am, I am just too realistic also. It'll be tough enough to win today and to win out and should all that happen, let's set it all up for a potential BSC run next year and a NC year the year after (there is my optimism!)

I don't think anyone ever said we should not focus on winning today. In the thread where I started the conversation I had a link to an article from a non-BYU source: David Miller from the National Football Post. That is what got me excited. Someone besides a blue-goggled fan is talking about us. And besides, there's nothing wrong with fans dreaming big and having fun. I mean, this is a sport. Take a chill pill and don't take our BCS dreams so seriously bro.

So BCS talk is an expession of our inner Ugly American? Isn't any American football talk a uniquely American expression?

I don't see how or why this is a problem. Are you saying that because fans talk about what-if's with the BCS that it causes our team to lose big games? And, why the knock on our schedule? We do have a great schedule, top-25 in the country.

If I can't talk about it, may I still keep dreaming about it your highness? ;)

This is the toughest BYU schedule ever. Period. It does not have the toughest game ever. Miami and a very few others hold that honor. But week in and week out competitive games with the toughest ones on the road and several back east. Toughest ever.



If anyone thinks it is not. Then post here which one is. Hint, only Detmer's Senior season comes close. Not much cake this year.



Other than that - no - BYU is not at all likely to get a BCS Bowl. It could happen if we win out and a number of upsets occur. Not likely.

And don't anyone even start a post about the BBall team making the NCAA tourney this year. I'm a realist unlike te rest of you and it is my comm be tha you be labeled stupid and cast out from on high for dreaming. :roll:



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This is the toughest BYU schedule ever. Period. It does not have the toughest game ever. Miami and a very few others hold that honor. But week in and week out competitive games with the toughest ones on the road and several back east. Toughest ever.



If anyone thinks it is not. Then post here which one is. Hint, only Detmer's Senior season comes close. Not much cake this year.



Other than that - no - BYU is not at all likely to get a BCS Bowl. It could happen if we win out and a number of upsets occur. Not likely.

BCS talk needs to stop, agreed.



This is not the toughest season and not close. BYU plays quality programs but they are all struggling or having off years. UT is down, BSU is down, WI is a quality team but not top 10 and ND is down. Utah stinks, UVA stinks, GT stinks, USU is missing their QB who did not play most of the game, Houston is average. On paper preseason it looked tough, but the season will likely end with zero top 10 opponents. If BYU had a top team this year every game would be very winnable, no huge upsets needed to win every game. No top teams on the schedule this year, for me that means it is difficult to qualify as the toughest schedule.



91 was tougher, as was 93, 96, 04 (USC won the championship and Utah won a BCS game), potentially 85. Those are top of mind. I look at the number of games that were nearly unwinnable. This year is shaping up to be average by top program standards. We should have won every game to date. Plus we had several gimme games.



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One good team does not a season make.

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One good team does not a season make.

No it does not, but to be the toughest schedule in history it must include one top team.



based on final rankings:



91 - Florida State (5), Penn State (3), UCLA (19)

93 - ND (2), Ohio State (11), UCLA (18)

94 - Utah (10), Colorado State (16)

03 - USC (1), Utah (21)

04 - USC (1), Utah (4), Boise State (12)



I would argue all these years were more difficult years based on several tough games. This year (as shown above is full ob average teams or good/great programs having down years). As or now there are to ranked teams on the schedule that we have not finished playing.



Not saying this year was easy by any means but to compare to 91, 93 or 04.....well no comparison.



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One good team does not a season make.

No it does not, but to be the toughest schedule in history it must include one top team.



based on final rankings:



91 - Florida State (5), Penn State (3), UCLA (19)

93 - ND (2), Ohio State (11), UCLA (18)

94 - Utah (10), Colorado State (16)

03 - USC (1), Utah (21)

04 - USC (1), Utah (4), Boise State (12)



I would argue all these years were more difficult years based on several tough games. This year (as shown above is full ob average teams or good/great programs having down years). As or now there are to ranked teams on the schedule that we have not finished playing.



Not saying this year was easy by any means but to compare to 91, 93 or 04.....well no comparison.



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No. Sure - you have 2 guaranteed losses those years. Maybe 3 in two of those years. Then you eat cake and coast to 11-2 or 9-3.



Home vs Away matters a lot, too. Like today.

91, 93, and 2004 do have tougher individual games. But way more cake.



And, even a blind squirrel can catch a nut and lightening in a bottle. Utah Stanford.

Do not be shocked if Wisconsin, ND, Texas, and maybe even Houston end up ranked with a little good fortune.

Cougarbib wrote:
Do not be shocked if Wisconsin, ND, Texas, and maybe even Houston end up ranked with a little good fortune.

I hope ND is top 10, but don't see it. :)



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91, 93, and 2004 do have tougher individual games. But way more cake.



And, even a blind squirrel can catch a nut and lightening in a bottle. Utah Stanford.

I don't agree. Outside of WI, ND and UT the rest of the schedule is on par with past WAC/MWC schedules. CSU, Wyoming (90's), Utah, AFA or Fresno generally had a good season every few years easily on par with this years BSU or Houston (rest of 2013 schedule is weak). This is a good schedule on paper (based on top historical programs) not results.



Again, not saying this year is an easy schedule just not toughest. Imagine is you swapped UT or ND for Florida State and Oregon....would be tougher.



Either way we are not close to where we should be or we would be undefeated.



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The BCS Talk should subside quickly now.



BYU is a good team. Fun to watch. Not BCS worthy this year.



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