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Revenues, Salaries and other information

by scott715 · 10/23/2013

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Choose one instituiton and then Utah for state then click on BYU or who you want to see.
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Interesting tidbits. (These are 2011 year numbers for BYU)



$3.10 million spent on head coach salaries for men's sports (across 8 men's sports). Football, basketball, and baseball are the only full-time positions. The other positions are part-time, but the coaches are full-time employees (ie, likely make the rest of salary through administration or teaching positions). How much of that $3.10 million goes to Bronco and Dave Rose?



$2.9 million spent on assistant coach salaries for men's sports. 24 assistants total, but 9 full-time positions for football, 3 full-time positions for basketball. All other sports have only part-time assistants. $150K average per full-time employee (19.43 FTE's). I'm thinking the "average" assistant football coach makes $225K. What does Anae make? $400K range? The rest of the football staff - $150-200K?



$14.9 million in operating expenses for the football team. $5.7 million for men's basketball.



$22.4 million in revenue from football. $5.9 million from men's basketball.



Is this just gameday/ticket revenue? Or does it also include TV/media revenue? [I think I answered my own question by looking up the University of Texas. Revenue was $103 million. I'm pretty sure that includes TV/media revenue].



It would be interesting to compare this data with pre-independence revenue and expenses/salaries.
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snoscythe
I'm just curious where they came up with this data set.
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scott715
It was reported by the schools. I checked my community college and the reporter works here at the college.
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IowaCougar
Kind of interesting. It's apparent that the "revenue" sports help pay for the "non-revenue" sports. This line is especially telling:



Total Revenues - Total Expenses for teams:



All Mens' Sports: $6,092,315

All Women's Sports: ($3,165,043)



I'm all for supporting the non-revenue sports. I was the recipient of a scholarship for such a sport. Most of the Women's sports are limited revenue. But that's what college athletics is all about. If the football and basketball teams can help support the other athletics, great!



What I get concerned about is all of the talk of paying the football players. If that happens, then do they cut the other sports to do it? Or do they eliminate the facilities that the athletics revenue help to support? Let's keep it amateur.
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scott715
I looked at the recruiting expense for Oregon and it was twice what we spent. Maybe we have a smaller pool and it is not a big deal. Or maybe our guys are more cost conscience. But that can be an advantage of the bigger schools.
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snoscythe
I've been reading "The System," and one of the more eye-opening chapters was where the authors detailed that less than 1 out of 6 FBS athletic departments actually breaks even, meaning that 5 out of 6 schools are losing money through the athletic departments. I have to assume that all of those are public schools that can operate at a deficit and just have tax-payers foot the bill.



Kind of makes you realize that if we ever get to the point of paying collegiate athletes, there will only be about 20 programs that can afford to compete, because everyone else is already in the red without paying the players.
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Stirfry
snoscythe wrote:
I've been reading "The System," and one of the more eye-opening chapters was where the authors detailed that less than 1 out of 6 FBS athletic departments actually breaks even, meaning that 5 out of 6 schools are losing money through the athletic departments. I have to assume that all of those are public schools that can operate at a deficit and just have tax-payers foot the bill.



Kind of makes you realize that if we ever get to the point of paying collegiate athletes, there will only be about 20 programs that can afford to compete, because everyone else is already in the red without paying the players.


I've always really questioned this. I have nothing to back this up with other than a background in finance but what does the accounting look like behind those numbers? I remember seeing a list of schools annual profit/loss and TCU was at exactly $0 every single year. I've always assumed the BCS schools that should be making money are just piling costs on to their athletics. I get it there's a lot of sports that just will never make money.
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IowaCougar wrote:
Kind of interesting. It's apparent that the "revenue" sports help pay for the "non-revenue" sports. This line is especially telling:



Total Revenues - Total Expenses for teams:



All Mens' Sports: $6,092,315

All Women's Sports: ($3,165,043)



I'm all for supporting the non-revenue sports. I was the recipient of a scholarship for such a sport. Most of the Women's sports are limited revenue. But that's what college athletics is all about. If the football and basketball teams can help support the other athletics, great!



What I get concerned about is all of the talk of paying the football players. If that happens, then do they cut the other sports to do it? Or do they eliminate the facilities that the athletics revenue help to support? Let's keep it amateur.


I agree, but I think a scholarship should include full cost of attendance--(tuition, books, fees, housing, meals, supplies, transportation) and just a little spending money in the form of a stipend--a couple hundred bucks a month. That would do wonders to keep kids at many schools from doing inappropriate things for that same couple hundred bucks. During the school year, they really don't have a chance to work, study, and practice football. Things could be loosened up a bit without voiding the amateurism of the sports, nor turning the players into employees and invoking workers compensation issues.
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scott715
BYU's football and basketball revenue for last three years from the site:



Football

2009 $15,763,650

2010 $15,664,108

2011 $22,406,413



Men's Basketball

2009 $3,882,784

2010 $4,843,476

2011 $5,933,208



Women's basketball

2009 $736,803

2010 $953,477

2011 $972,880
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Cougarfan87
scott715 wrote:
BYU's football and basketball revenue for last three years from the site:



Football

2009 $15,763,650

2010 $15,664,108

2011 $22,406,413



Men's Basketball

2009 $3,882,784

2010 $4,843,476

2011 $5,933,208



Women's basketball

2009 $736,803

2010 $953,477

2011 $972,880


To be in the black on women's basketball is actually very impressive. I know the WNBA isn't running in the black.
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scott715
This is revenue not profit. I don't know if they made a profit or not.



Those show nice increases.
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Cougarfan87
scott715 wrote:
This is revenue not profit. I don't know if they made a profit or not.



Those show nice increases.


This is why I am not an accountant.
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