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Sagarin 2013

by scott715 · 10/14/2013

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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 33

2. at Wisconsin 13

3. vs Texas 29

4. vs Boise St 28

5. vs Utah 25

6. at Utah St 41

7. vs Georgia Tech 40

8. vs Middle Tennessee 121

9. at Nevada 95

10. at Virginia 82

11. at Houston 56

12. vs Idaho St 204



BYU 24
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EM_Puma
Hard to believe that Puktah figures at the moment to have been/be the 2nd best team on our schedule. They're getting a lot of mileage out of beating Stanford after losing to OSU and UCLA.
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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 30

2. at Wisconsin 8

3. vs Texas 31

4. vs Boise St 32

5. vs Utah 35

6. at Utah St 40

7. vs Georgia Tech 33

8. vs Middle Tennessee 115

9. at Nevada 92

10. at Virginia 94

11. at Houston 50

12. vs Idaho St 203



BYU 28
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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 29

2. at Wisconsin 11

3. vs Texas 31

4. vs Boise St 38

5. vs Utah 39

6. at Utah St 41

7. vs Georgia Tech 33

8. vs Middle Tennessee 110

9. at Nevada 103

10. at Virginia 86

11. at Houston 40

12. vs Idaho St 201



BYU 24
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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 31

2. at Wisconsin 6

3. vs Texas 23

4. vs Boise St 35

5. vs Utah 37

6. at Utah St 36

7. vs Georgia Tech 33

8. vs Middle Tennessee 110

9. at Nevada 104

10. at Virginia 89

11. at Houston 41

12. vs Idaho St 200



BYU 24
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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 42

2. at Wisconsin 6

3. vs Texas 31

4. vs Boise St 38

5. vs Utah 29

6. at Utah St 39

7. vs Georgia Tech 25

8. vs Middle Tennessee 86

9. at Nevada 123

10. at Virginia 99

11. at Houston 33

12. vs Idaho St 214



BYU 19 SOS 10
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scott715
1. at Notre Dame 42

2. at Wisconsin 5

3. vs Texas 35

4. vs Boise St 33

5. vs Utah 26

6. at Utah St 40

7. vs Georgia Tech 27

8. vs Middle Tennessee 88

9. at Nevada 109

10. at Virginia 97

11. at Houston 38

12. vs Idaho St 206



BYU 21 SOS 24 took a hit this week
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SpiffCoug
I'm surprised at 4-6 the Utes are that high.
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Cougarbib
SpiffCoug wrote:
I'm surprised at 4-6 the Utes are that high.


It is because of their SOS.



They beat Stanford, BYU, USU, and Weber State. Three respectable wins.



They lost to Oregon, UCLA, USC, ASU, OSU in OT, AZ. No shame losing to any of those teams.



The computers and voters must be clinging tightly to 3 of those wins and discounting the losses.



More of the same - maybe worse next year - Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Michigan, ASU, OSU, etc.



Even Colorado and WSU win once in a while now.
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Cougarbib
Scott



Sagarin - not sagrain
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scott715
BYU 2013 opponents final Sagarin rank, record and SOS rank



11 Washington 9-4 (17)

18 Wisconsin 9-4 (49)

28 Notre Dame 9-4 (30)

33 Texas 8-5 (11)

34 Utah 5-7 (3)

35 BYU 8-5 (38)

37 Georgia Tech 7-6 (46)

41 Utah State 9-5 (74)

47 Boise State 8-5 (75)

50 Houston 8-5 (73)

98 Nevada 4-8 (64)

103 Middle Tennessee 8-5 (104)

106 Virginia 2-10 (35)

229 Idaho State 3-9 (168)
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Cougarbib
BYU played 9 Top 50 opponents.



Apparently U was slightly better than BYU.



Apparently UW was slightly better than the other UW.



UVA was not the worst FBS team.
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SpiffCoug
Sorry, but Utah was only better than BYU on that day. If I can't say a 6-win team is better than a 9-win team, then I'm certainly not going to say a 5-win team is better than an 8-win team.
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Cougarbib
SpiffCoug wrote:
Sorry, but Utah was only better than BYU on that day. If I can't say a 6-win team is better than a 9-win team, then I'm certainly not going to say a 5-win team is better than an 8-win team.


If we had beaten them that day, this list would look a lot different.



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Cougarbib
scott715 wrote:
1. at Notre Dame 33

2. at Wisconsin 13

3. vs Texas 29

4. vs Boise St 28

5. vs Utah 25

6. at Utah St 41

7. vs Georgia Tech 40

8. vs Middle Tennessee 121

9. at Nevada 95

10. at Virginia 82

11. at Houston 56

12. vs Idaho St 204



BYU 24


Sagarin. Saggy. Not Sagrain.



;)



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scott715
I tried to change but it did not work. We want to keep you happy.
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Cougarbib
It worked. Sagrain was giving me migrain.



;)



it changes the OP and any from this point forward.



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SpiffCoug
Cougarbib wrote:
Sorry, but Utah was only better than BYU on that day. If I can't say a 6-win team is better than a 9-win team, then I'm certainly not going to say a 5-win team is better than an 8-win team.


If we had beaten them that day, this list would look a lot different.



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Yep. BYU blew chunks in the season with losses to mediocre and awful teams in weeks 1 and 3.
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frdbtr
SpiffCoug wrote:
SpiffCoug wrote:
Sorry, but Utah was only better than BYU on that day. If I can't say a 6-win team is better than a 9-win team, then I'm certainly not going to say a 5-win team is better than an 8-win team.


If we had beaten them that day, this list would look a lot different.



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Yep. BYU blew chunks in the season with losses to mediocre and awful teams in weeks 1 and 3.


I think if BYU had played the utes in any of the weeks that we beat GT, USU or BSU, we would have handled them easily. BYU's offense was not good enough to beat utah's defense in week 3 and maybe not any week after BSU (after the offensive injuries).
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nickdutson
frdbtr wrote:
Cougarbib wrote:
Sorry, but Utah was only better than BYU on that day. If I can't say a 6-win team is better than a 9-win team, then I'm certainly not going to say a 5-win team is better than an 8-win team.


If we had beaten them that day, this list would look a lot different.



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Yep. BYU blew chunks in the season with losses to mediocre and awful teams in weeks 1 and 3.


I think if BYU had played the utes in any of the weeks that we beat GT, USU or BSU, we would have handled them easily. BYU's offense was not good enough to beat utah's defense in week 3 and maybe not any week after BSU (after the offensive injuries).

Thats always an easy assumption. You play the game when you schedule the game. Besides we had an extra week to prepare and we fell flat on our faces for the fourth year in a row. Even after this 2 year hiatus I dont see us beating them and if we do it will be considered an upset. They have our number. Sure we might have beaten them later in the season because they lost their QB. That win would have an asterisk though. For you to say the third game was too early to play the Utes then I am sure Texas would like that game back and the Aggies would like Keeton healthy for the other 3 quarters. It's up to the coaches to prepare their players to play the game when ever its played.



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