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My Takeaways from the Texas Game

by runbyu1 · 9/8/2013

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runbyu1
1) Taysom is the real deal athletically. I now understand why he is starting when virtually everyone who watched spring and fall camp said that Olsen was better.



2) Taysom's pass stats are worse than he is playing. Oline breakdowns for early pressure, throwaways, and far too many dropped passes contributed. That said, he has a LONG way to go and we will lose games if he doesn't get better. Interestingly, Steve Young was apparently not a very good passer at first either.



3) Apo is just not great, and the receivers disappointed once again...so much for the "strength of the offense." Watching a hobbled Hoffman go aggressively after a ball was a night and day difference to watching Apo.



4) Ridley is legit. The guy catches anything thrown in his vicinity.



5) The O-Line was INCREDIBLE at run blocking! Unfortunately they were TERRIBLE at pass blocking and the multiple false starts were unacceptable. Taysom was running for his life or under pressure almost immediately on most pass plays.



6) Povey is a great open field tacker and hits hard, but he is WAY TOO SLOW to be playing corner.



7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.



8) Rob Daniel is better than we could have hoped. However, due to the scheme, most any team that wants to play the short passing game can take that all day long. The ESPN announcers were incredulous that TX wasn't abusing us for taking such big cushions between the receivers and the DB's.

9) Paul Lasike was impressive, and Jamaal continues to impress. Hopefully Lasike can develop in to this team's version of Manase Tonga while still being able to run up decent chunks of yardage like he did last night.



10) Props to the fans for not rushing the field



11) Our D-Line and Linebackers may actually be just as good, if not better than last year. Even without Ziggy. We shall see. Kaufusi and Manumaleuna were all over the place.



12) Daniel Sorenson was great and Bills was solid. Does anyone know why Morgan played so much?



13) Coaching. Defensive calls were great. Offensive play calling was great for the most part but puzzling at times as well. I would've stepped on the throat on that 4th and inches instead of settling for a field goal, but that was a fair enough call considering our defense.



14) Obvious that they were Big12 Ref's keeping TX in the game. The running in to the kicker, pass interference, obvious clipping and multiple other no calls were puzzling to say the least. Then the clipping called on us where our boy pulled back and didn't hit the guy. Which other calls did I miss? I felt like all of us watching the game together were shaking our heads the whole game at the officiating.



15) Props to Sorenson for showing that he really is a good kicker when healthy. Balls in the uprights and through the back of the end zone were beautiful to see. Arellano is solid too.



Thoughts?
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byucougar1
The Bye will be good for the team to fine tune some errors.



1. Improve TH throwing mechanics when rolling out.

2. Strengthen the center to QB exchange and associated fumbles.

3. Better decision making on throwing passes in tight coverage.

4. Improved play from DBs - susceptible to deep ball - both Povey and Daniel were beat for TDs by Michael Davis. They also played 10 yes off line of scrimmage and would be easy pickings for short passes.

5. Get WR and TEs more involved and not just Hoffman. Spreading the ball around will keep the D from keying in on just one player.

6. Include Hine in some running - passing plays as he has shown big play speed on KO returns.



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runbyu1
Good calls on all of the above! I totally forgot to include the Center to QB exchange still needing serious work. Definitely agree on the TE's and including Hine on some snaps!
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Stirfry
runbyu1 wrote:
Good calls on all of the above! I totally forgot to include the Center to QB exchange still needing serious work. Definitely agree on the TE's and including Hine on some snaps!


Yeah, the problems at center again this year are driving me crazy! I don't know what we can't fix that. Hopefully it's the wet ball but I don't think so.



Also, Bronco has got to learn to take out his stars when the game is sealed up. Not only is it an unneeded risk, the backups need practice. Ammon Olsen will need to play this year if Taysom keeps running so much.
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mtnradio
Stirfry wrote:



Also, Bronco has got to learn to take out his stars when the game is sealed up. Not only is it an unneeded risk, the backups need practice. Ammon Olsen will need to play this year if Taysom keeps running so much.


That one worries me ALOT.



I don't know if the current scheme allows for the quick passes into the flats to pick up RB's and TE's out there ... but it seems to me that from the gun, a quick pass out there would build confidence for Hill and make the D play more honest.
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Cougs_Rule
THe balance is, until 3 minutes remaining that game wasn't certain. If BYU had scored on their last major drive instead of creating a Tater sandwich and fumbling, it would have been 47-21. Thats when both teams mail it in and give to the backups.

But, yes, Bronoc hasn't always done well with that.
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jonnylingo
runbyu1 wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.
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stuckinbig10country
jonnylingo wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.


Ash is not as good as Wilson right now. I think BYU will make really good OL's look bad this year. The front 7 is really, really good. Look for Utah to go double TE single back, and keep 2 of those 3 in to block a lot. They're going to try and go max protect throw deep 7 to 10 times in the game.
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Lawboy
This might sound pretty obvious, but Taysom just needs to slow down on the passing plays.



With the GHGH, speed is the name of the game. Fast tempo offense, hard running, quick reads and go. But with passing, it is less about speed, more about timing and rhythm. So those things work against each other.



Taysom did a great job with his running and reads on running pays. The tempo and decisions were excellent. He just needs to find a slower more rhythmic gear for the passing game. This might take some time, but once he does, the passing game will improve.
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mizzoucoug
My only takeaway at this point is that our OL was pissed and I hope they can stay that way all year. That's truly all that matters for this team to have a special season. Everything else is at least acceptable at this point.
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runbyu1
Agreed on slowing down on the passing plays. Also agreed with Mizzou on the Oline has to keep the same aggressive, mean, attitude!



One other thought: In all levels of football starting with Pop Warner, they teach you to run up to catch kicks. Falslev is continually backing way up to catch punts...it drives me nuts! Are our coaches positioning him this way for a reason? Is it his personal preference? Because I'm pretty sure 99% of football coaches would say this is not fundamentally sound at all.
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BYULV
stuckinbig10country wrote:
runbyu1 wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.


Ash is not as good as Wilson right now. I think BYU will make really good OL's look bad this year. The front 7 is really, really good. Look for Utah to go double TE single back, and keep 2 of those 3 in to block a lot. They're going to try and go max protect throw deep 7 to 10 times in the game.


Actually, Wilson is 8th in the country in PER, Ash is 28th (202 vs 169). Wilson also with a better completion percentage, 66 vs 63%; yards/attempt Also favors Wilson, 12 vs 9.6 .



http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating



Of course, with blue goggles on, Wilson hasn't had his stats skewed by our D yet :evil:
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BYULV
runbyu1 wrote:
Agreed on slowing down on the passing plays. Also agreed with Mizzou on the Oline has to keep the same aggressive, mean, attitude!



One other thought: In all levels of football starting with Pop Warner, they teach you to run up to catch kicks. Falslev is continually backing way up to catch punts...it drives me nuts! Are our coaches positioning him this way for a reason? Is it his personal preference? Because I'm pretty sure 99% of football coaches would say this is not fundamentally sound at all.


But has he ever dropped one or given us reason to doubt his style? I think he started the season as the leading active punt returner in the country, not sure where he is now. If its not broke, don't fix it. We can use our ST energies elsewhere
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jonnylingo
stuckinbig10country wrote:
runbyu1 wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.


Ash is not as good as Wilson right now. I think BYU will make really good OL's look bad this year. The front 7 is really, really good. Look for Utah to go double TE single back, and keep 2 of those 3 in to block a lot. They're going to try and go max protect throw deep 7 to 10 times in the game.


I disagree. Ash is better than wilson right now but a fair amount. His oline was not capable of protecting him and we beat the crap out of him. that is always going to affect a qbs play. wilson is huge though. it will take more than hitting him to stop him. i am concerned about his ability to pass given the cornerback situation. good things bills and sorenson are playing lights out.
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BYULV
Awkwardly phrased post of the day:


15) Props to Sorenson for showing that he really is a good kicker when healthy. Balls in the uprights and through the back of the end zone were beautiful to see. Arellano is solid too.
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jonnylingo
BYULV wrote:
jonnylingo wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.


Ash is not as good as Wilson right now. I think BYU will make really good OL's look bad this year. The front 7 is really, really good. Look for Utah to go double TE single back, and keep 2 of those 3 in to block a lot. They're going to try and go max protect throw deep 7 to 10 times in the game.


Actually, Wilson is 8th in the country in PER, Ash is 28th (202 vs 169). Wilson also with a better completion percentage, 66 vs 63%; yards/attempt Also favors Wilson, 12 vs 9.6 .



http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating



Of course, with blue goggles on, Wilson hasn't had his stats skewed by our D yet :evil:


Those stats prove nothing. Most of them come from whooping up on a Weber State teams that i as good as the bingham high school team or worse. i don't think utah state's defense is anything to get too excited about either. ash got the crap kicked out of him by our D. Wilson hasn't seen anything like what he will see in two weeks from our D.
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Guest
BYULV wrote:
Awkwardly phrased post of the day:


15) Props to Sorenson for showing that he really is a good kicker when healthy. Balls in the uprights and through the back of the end zone were beautiful to see. Arellano is solid too.




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cougs_Rule
Wilson will play BYU better than Ash. And Utahs WRs will play better than Texas'-- bc Utah always plays up to BYU. And Whitt always seems to outcòach Bronco-- personally, I think, bc the Whitt fam ates BYU. But I think Byu will e ready this year.
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vancouvercougar
BYULV wrote:
jonnylingo wrote:

7) Texas could have taken 8 yards on every play throwing to Povey's side of the field until we were forced to tighten it up, and then they could've bombed over the top every time.




and this will certainly be Utah's game plan. Can our guys get pressure on wilson in time? is utah's oline better than texas'?



wilson is accurate enough that he will punish us like oregon state did last year if we don't get pressure. utah won't be able to run a lick on us. they will have to win throwing the ball just as texas tried to. the good news is that ash is a better passer than wilson and texas has better receivers than utah.


Ash is not as good as Wilson right now. I think BYU will make really good OL's look bad this year. The front 7 is really, really good. Look for Utah to go double TE single back, and keep 2 of those 3 in to block a lot. They're going to try and go max protect throw deep 7 to 10 times in the game.


Actually, Wilson is 8th in the country in PER, Ash is 28th (202 vs 169). Wilson also with a better completion percentage, 66 vs 63%; yards/attempt Also favors Wilson, 12 vs 9.6 .



http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating



Of course, with blue goggles on, Wilson hasn't had his stats skewed by our D yet :evil:


But Wilson has had his stats skewed by Weber State in the opposite direction.
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frdbtr
Lawboy wrote:
This might sound pretty obvious, but Taysom just needs to slow down on the passing plays.



With the GHGH, speed is the name of the game. Fast tempo offense, hard running, quick reads and go. But with passing, it is less about speed, more about timing and rhythm. So those things work against each other.



Taysom did a great job with his running and reads on running pays. The tempo and decisions were excellent. He just needs to find a slower more rhythmic gear for the passing game. This might take some time, but once he does, the passing game will improve.


I agree 100% and have been saying as much since Virginia.
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