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Former BYU and NFL OL player comment

by Cougarbib · 3/24/2013

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Cougarbib
Thinks Weber was a nice guy, but too soft. Thinks 2J will be an improvement as OL Coach.



Just one former player's opinion, but a highly respected one.



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SpiffCoug
You sure weren't just talking to pretty much anyone on this board the last four or so years?



This is a surprise to no one who routinely read Cougar Corner.
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Mars


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.
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Cougarbib
SpiffCoug wrote:
You sure weren't just talking to pretty much anyone on this board the last four or so years?



This is a surprise to no one who routinely read Cougar Corner.


2J was not here then. Take his comment as a vote of confidence in 2J. Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010. We all know USU hired him immediately this year and they have a good offense. We know the OL was injury riddled. And yes, we know most fans thought Weber should have been fired at the end of 2010. We also know that offenses prior to 2010 were fine under Weber.



Take this comment as a very good offensive lineman commenting on Weber's entire body of work and his thoughts about 2J. Weber had few fans at the end. On the other hand fans were clamoring for Jeff Grimes and had long forgotten 2J



Take this comment as acknowledgement if how much the OL affected over-all team performance.



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Cougarbib
Mars wrote:


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.


If Anae, Chow, Detmer, or Young ever mention what they think re Doman to anyone - I hope nobody mentions it since you already know and everyone else is in agreement with you.



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Cougs_Rule
Cougarbib wrote:


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.


If Anae, Chow, Detmer, or Young ever mention what they think re Doman to anyone - I hope nobody mentions it since you already know and everyone else is in agreement with you.



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Um, Bib, I think you are missing that Mars is being TIC. Maybe you are as well, and I am missing your TIC.
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Cougs_Rule
Cougarbib wrote:
You sure weren't just talking to pretty much anyone on this board the last four or so years?



This is a surprise to no one who routinely read Cougar Corner.


2J was not here then. Take his comment as a vote of confidence in 2J. Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010. We all know USU hired him immediately this year and they have a good offense. We know the OL was injury riddled. And yes, we know most fans thought Weber should have been fired at the end of 2010. We also know that offenses prior to 2010 were fine under Weber.



Take this comment as a very good offensive lineman commenting on Weber's entire body of work and his thoughts about 2J. Weber had few fans at the end. On the other hand fans were clamoring for Jeff Grimes and had long forgotten 2J



Take this comment as acknowledgement if how much the OL affected over-all team performance.



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One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.
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Ddawg
Mars wrote:


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.


Get out of town! Jump back and slide on down. ;)
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Brayden Green
I heard from my super secret contact that there may have been divisions in the locker room the last couple years, and that there was something going on with Jamie Hill that led to his dismissal.



Also, I mingle frequently with former players and they all agree that I am the shiznitt.
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Mars
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.
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Cougarbib
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Mars wrote:


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.


If Anae, Chow, Detmer, or Young ever mention what they think re Doman to anyone - I hope nobody mentions it since you already know and everyone else is in agreement with you.



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Um, Bib, I think you are missing that Mars is being TIC. Maybe you are as well, and I am missing your TIC.


I am pretty sure I know what Mars' intent was.



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Cougarbib
Mars wrote:
Cougarbib wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.


Ironically, Doman, Dupaix, and Cahoon were fired. Weber was not. Might have gotten fired if USU had not grabbed him. We will never know.



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Cougs_Rule
Bib, what planet are you living on?
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Cougarbib
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Bib, what planet are you living on?


Which fact do you disagree with?



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jonnylingo
Mars wrote:


I hear that someone thinks Brandon Doman may have been a bit over his head, and that Anae may bring some needed experience. But don't take my word for it.


Holy crap I heard the same thing!
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jonnylingo
Cougarbib wrote:
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.


Ironically, Doman, Dupaix, and Cahoon were fired. Weber was not. Might have gotten fired if USU had not grabbed him. We will never know.



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He wasn't fired because ryker mathews implied he may not come to byu if he was fired.
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frdbtr
Cougarbib wrote:
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.


Ironically, Doman, Dupaix, and Cahoon were fired. Weber was not. Might have gotten fired if USU had not grabbed him. We will never know.



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Everyone on the offense was asked to "reapply". Weber chose to apply somewhere else and was hired. If he had reapplied, he would have not been retained just like the others. Anae wanted to hire an entire new staff.
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Cougarbib
jonnylingo wrote:
Mars wrote:
Cougarbib wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.


Ironically, Doman, Dupaix, and Cahoon were fired. Weber was not. Might have gotten fired if USU had not grabbed him. We will never know.



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He wasn't fired because ryker mathews implied he may not come to byu if he was fired.


He wasn't fired this year either.



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Cougarbib
frdbtr wrote:
Mars wrote:
Cougarbib wrote:
Obviously we all heard that players loved Weber. We all know that he was given a vote of confidence and retained after 2010.
One very big fact You are missing is that Weber was still the good cop when Anae was still around and kicking his Oline in the teeth on a regular basis. Weber can't claim success when Anae was around.

Weber getting "a vote of confidence" when he wasn't fired is like anyone who is close to being fired but isn't, such as Howland at UCLA coming into this basketball season. He survived a close call, for a time, and then his luck finally ran out.


Ironically, Doman, Dupaix, and Cahoon were fired. Weber was not. Might have gotten fired if USU had not grabbed him. We will never know.



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Everyone on the offense was asked to "reapply". Weber chose to apply somewhere else and was hired. If he had reapplied, he would have not been retained just like the others. Anae wanted to hire an entire new staff.


Reasonable assumption. But we can never know for sure.



They were all asked to reapply after 2010. Weber reapplied and was rehired. Anae applied elsewhere, but according to Bronco, would have been rehired. Doman applied and was promoted. Higgins applied elsewhere and quit.



They were all asked to reapply after 2012 - Reynolds retired, Weber applied elsewhere and quit. 3 were fired. Weber got a pretty good job right away. Someone must think he is good.



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snoscythe
I don't get the anology:



Anae, Chow, Detmer, or Young : Doman

former OL player : Weber



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