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Mock Draft Ansah #2

by KYCoug · 2/16/2013

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Ddawg
Good find ~



I like this quote from your link: "Ansah who is the most physically gifted defensive end in the Draft, but is still learning the finer points of playing the position."
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HoosierCougar
Looks like they haven't mentioned that the Church is looking to start Pop Warner leagues in Accra, Ghana and other places where the LDS faith is growing. :D ;) :lol:
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Schmoe
I would love it if Ziggy went before Star.
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SpiffCoug
#2 seems awfully high for Ziggy.
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snoscythe
SpiffCoug wrote:
#2 seems awfully high for Ziggy.


I would have agreed with you before the Senior Bowl. After he just got done blowing up 3 of the top five tackles in the draft, anything can happen.
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KYCoug
snoscythe wrote:
#2 seems awfully high for Ziggy.


I would have agreed with you before the Senior Bowl. After he just got done blowing up 3 of the top five tackles in the draft, anything can happen.


I saw a quote last week on the senior bowl that for a week the coaches were frustrated with Ziggy because he wasn't picking up on their instructions. Then he comes into the game and totally dominates! That's why he's a rising star!
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Cougs_Rule
Someone has to be writing a screenplay for a movie. Or at least purchasing rights.
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Brayden Green
It could be called "I don't trust you."
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CrimsonCoug
I Don't Trust you??? What's the story there?
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SpiffCoug
CrimsonCoug wrote:
I Don't Trust you??? What's the story there?

BlueIs is convinced that Ziggy was ready to shine from Day 1 and that there was no development necessary for Ziggy. That Bronco and the defensive staff didn't trust him and that was why he didn't play more. Had the coaches been more trusting from the start, he would have shined from the start. That BYU coaches did nothing to develop Ziggy, they only held him back until they were left with no other option.



Ziggy's success is a great success for both Ziggy and the BYU coaching staff. He was taught how to play by the coaches.



Could they have trusted and played him more sooner? Probably. But I bet Ziggy doesn't begrudge what BYU's coaches did for him one iota and that he probably credits them greatly for the success he's having.



Side note, great article on Yahoo! Sports about Ziggy. Maybe he really could go high.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--the-pass-rush-project--ezekiel--ziggy--ansah-is-the-latest--raw--superathletic-de-to-make-waves--200203777.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


That wonder was fueled at the Senior Bowl. After what Savage termed a so-so week of practice from Ansah, he took over the game.



"He was the best player in the game, by far … Basically, he took over the game," said Savage, who watched from field level. "A lot of people figured he would be able to rush the passer because of how well he can run. But then he showed he can put his hand in a big offensive lineman's chest, get off that block and play the run. Once people in the NFL really look at the tape, he's going to shoot up the boards.



"I was talking with one [NFL] scout and he said, ‘If this was recruiting, I'm not sure he wouldn't be the top recruit in the country.' In the draft, you only get your pick and then you have to wait, so taking a guy like Ansah is tough because of the risk. But if you can recruit other guys who you know are sure things, you can take a risk on a guy like this and really go after him. Like I said, he might be the top kid in a situation like that, and I think after the combine there are going to be a lot of teams at the top of the draft wondering if they should take a shot."



Or as another scout put it: "The upside is a [Pierre-Paul], Demarcus Ware-type athlete. He's what we're all looking for from an athletic perspective. But, yeah, there are a lot of questions."
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snoscythe
I think he meant that Ziggy may not have trusted the coaches at the Senior Bowl if they were doing things completely different than what worked for him at BYU. After all, we're talking about the coaching staff of the Deeetroit Lions.
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scott715
I saw him play in a scimmage 18 months ago. I wonder if he would make it. Got out of position, had trouble with the run and could not run Nelson down from behind. He got PT when he was ready for it.
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mizzoucoug
BlueIsBetter wrote:
It could be called "I don't trust you."




LOL
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Brayden Green
CrimsonCoug wrote:
I Don't Trust you??? What's the story there?


But in between the first day he walked into the BYU football office, and his current role as a starter on the Cougars' defensive line, there were long days and discouraging moments.



Mendenhall remembers his first meeting with Ansah.



"I said, 'I don't know you, I don't trust you and I don't know if you can even make it through a workout.' I certainly didn't believe he would play after watching him go through winter conditioning because he couldn't get enough oxygen to finish a drill."



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765610752/BYU-football-No-longer-a-football-novice-Ziggy-Ansah-has-NFL-potential.html?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



emphasis mine


Weird thing to say to a kid after having just met someone for less than 2 minutes.



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Brayden Green
SpiffCoug wrote:
I Don't Trust you??? What's the story there?

BlueIs is convinced that Ziggy was ready to shine from Day 1 and that there was no development necessary for Ziggy. That Bronco and the defensive staff didn't trust him and that was why he didn't play more.




I don't think that he was ready to shine from day 1. See my direct quote from Bronco above. That is the *only* thing I was referring to (that Bronco has a weird emphasis that he places on trust... as shown in the whole "Riley is our quarterback, he has earned my trust" stuff. And the whole "I don't really trust James" comment in the week leading up to the bowl game.)





(I think that if you used straw man arguments less, people might take you more serious. By overstating your "opponents" position, you diminish yours.)
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Brayden Green
mizzoucoug wrote:
It could be called "I don't trust you."




LOL


Nice to see that someone on this board still has a sense of humor... ;)
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Stirfry
BlueIsBetter wrote:
BlueIsBetter wrote:
It could be called "I don't trust you."




LOL


Nice to see that someone on this board still has a sense of humor... ;)




I'm still not really sure what Bronco means by that. I hope it means "I don't trust your ability" but he never says ability. Why would he say I don't trust James Lark after 6 years in the program? It's just a Broncoism that I have to shake my head about and move on.



For being a guy that is so big on organizational behavior and teaming concepts he sure confuses me a lot.
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Schmoe
BlueIsBetter wrote:
I Don't Trust you??? What's the story there?


But in between the first day he walked into the BYU football office, and his current role as a starter on the Cougars' defensive line, there were long days and discouraging moments.



Mendenhall remembers his first meeting with Ansah.



"I said, 'I don't know you, I don't trust you and I don't know if you can even make it through a workout.' I certainly didn't believe he would play after watching him go through winter conditioning because he couldn't get enough oxygen to finish a drill."



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765610752/BYU-football-No-longer-a-football-novice-Ziggy-Ansah-has-NFL-potential.html?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



emphasis mine


Weird thing to say to a kid after having just met someone for less than 2 minutes.



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Yeah, and even weirder to take that kid and make him a possible #1 overall pick. SHRUG
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Brayden Green
Schmoe wrote:

Yeah, and even weirder to take that kid and make him a possible #1 overall pick. SHRUG


:roll:



That's not weird. Are you saying that telling a potential commit "I don't trust you" isn't weird? Of course it is.
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