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phew....

by craigoscarson · 1/6/2013

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craigoscarson
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one
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Schmoe
Yep, really lucky we were playing USF tonight.
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Guest
Look at our road games so far this year, I think it's safe to say we will struggle on the road in conference play. Hopefully the team has the heart, like they did tonight, to win a few of them.
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Gunk
Doolin played a great game and Walters put together a legit game plan.



I think the short turn around from LMU showed a bit.



Nice to see Zylstra step up a bit. Great to see Carlino lead the team.



Was it just me, or did Haws look a bit rattled in the end. Did the pressure get to him? The missed free throws are one thing, but the double dribble was perplexing.



This was a good gut check for us. Horrible refs, tiny gym and costly mistakes. We're lucky to get of there with a win and I'm glad to have that game out of the way. That was one I was a bit worried about.



SCU next week is going to be tough.
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imuakahuku
craigoscarson wrote:
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one

Out coached? Rose made the adjustments required and came out with a win. He out coached the other guy. Puting Sharp on the guy carrying his team won it for us. A game where our offense struggled and the defense was almost as bad. But he made changes and they worked. Off nights shooting happen and when the other team is on fire it can lead to a blowout. That didn't happen and we got the W. As for the game, I give Sharp the game ball.



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craigoscarson
imuakahuku wrote:
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one

Out coached? Rose made the adjustments required and came out with a win. He out coached the other guy. Puting Sharp on the guy carrying his team won it for us. A game where our offense struggled and the defense was almost as bad. But he made changes and they worked. Off nights shooting happen and when the other team is on fire it can lead to a blowout. That didn't happen and we got the W. As for the game, I give Sharp the game ball.



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In comparing talent levels of each team, yes Dave Rose was outcoached last night. Thankfully some adjustments came, but Rex was the better coach last night; he just doesn't have the talent or experience on his team. The final margin was razor thin, but the difference in actual talent is palpable, yet they led most of the game. I think you'd have a hard time finding a lot of people to say that Rex wasn't the best coach on the evening. You'd have a harder time finding someone to say that USF comes close in the level of talent and depth of this BYU hoops team. San Fran lost 6 players last year, 4 starters, and has no business even being in this game; that's a credit to the coach.
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SpiffCoug
I thought BYU showed great intensity and effort last night. I don't think USF was playing any harder than we were.
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rblack
craigoscarson wrote:
craigoscarson wrote:
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one

Out coached? Rose made the adjustments required and came out with a win. He out coached the other guy. Puting Sharp on the guy carrying his team won it for us. A game where our offense struggled and the defense was almost as bad. But he made changes and they worked. Off nights shooting happen and when the other team is on fire it can lead to a blowout. That didn't happen and we got the W. As for the game, I give Sharp the game ball.



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In comparing talent levels of each team, yes Dave Rose was outcoached last night. Thankfully some adjustments came, but Rex was the better coach last night; he just doesn't have the talent or experience on his team. The final margin was razor thin, but the difference in actual talent is palpable, yet they led most of the game. I think you'd have a hard time finding a lot of people to say that Rex wasn't the best coach on the evening. You'd have a harder time finding someone to say that USF comes close in the level of talent and depth of this BYU hoops team. San Fran lost 6 players last year, 4 starters, and has no business even being in this game; that's a credit to the coach.

Sorry, but you can't coach 70% from the three point line in the first half. The better coach won the game.
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Cougs_Rule
Have to agree mostly with Craig. BYU was almost out coached. But USF's 2nd scorer (gillespie?) was almost shut down in the second half. And putting Sharp on Doolaheehaw was a great move.

And as for BDavies, aside from eating picked on by the refs, stupid is is stupid does. I don't know if he has a short memory or is arrogant and thinks he can get away with the cheap stuff or if this was his version of an "off night." C'mon BD keep your head in the game!

And for All the flack heaped it on Zylstra, Cusick, Carlino, and even Sharp, Credit those guys with their contribution and for stepping up when our two scorers were struggling.

I still like what I'm envisioning with Kaufusi. He's fearless and huge. We haven't had his size since Araujo. He will be able to post in ways that our other guys can't. And against other teams' 2nd strangers, he will do just fine.

But yes, PHEW! We did a lot to get back in the game a lot to give it away, and still hopefully knocked some road jitters off. Ugly, but critical win.
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Gunk
rblack wrote:
imuakahuku wrote:
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one

Out coached? Rose made the adjustments required and came out with a win. He out coached the other guy. Puting Sharp on the guy carrying his team won it for us. A game where our offense struggled and the defense was almost as bad. But he made changes and they worked. Off nights shooting happen and when the other team is on fire it can lead to a blowout. That didn't happen and we got the W. As for the game, I give Sharp the game ball.



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In comparing talent levels of each team, yes Dave Rose was outcoached last night. Thankfully some adjustments came, but Rex was the better coach last night; he just doesn't have the talent or experience on his team. The final margin was razor thin, but the difference in actual talent is palpable, yet they led most of the game. I think you'd have a hard time finding a lot of people to say that Rex wasn't the best coach on the evening. You'd have a harder time finding someone to say that USF comes close in the level of talent and depth of this BYU hoops team. San Fran lost 6 players last year, 4 starters, and has no business even being in this game; that's a credit to the coach.

Sorry, but you can't coach 70% from the three point line in the first half. The better coach won the game.


Kind of can.



Walters came in with a game plan that made our zone look foolish. Yes, the players shot well, but they got a ton of open shots because of the game plan Walters set up. Let's give credit where credit is due.



In the 2nd half when we stopped collapsing on Doolin and staying out on the perimeter to counter the open 3s, Walter had Doolin keep driving.



It was a chess match. In the end I do think the better coach won but credit Walters with solid game plan, one that will be copied by our opponents.



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SpiffCoug wrote:
I thought BYU showed great intensity and effort last night. I don't think USF was playing any harder than we were.

This doesn't bode well for BYU against future opponents.
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Cougest
rblack wrote:
imuakahuku wrote:
outcoached, outplayed, outreffed but we outlasted them



we did darn near everything possible to lose that game



It's a good wakeup and intro to road play in conference and maybe just maybe our players will learn to value their time at the free throw line a little more in the future



I love Josh Sharps hustle and glad we'll have him two more years; he's going to make a great mentor for Mika and Worthington



That loss would have been a bubble bursting one

Out coached? Rose made the adjustments required and came out with a win. He out coached the other guy. Puting Sharp on the guy carrying his team won it for us. A game where our offense struggled and the defense was almost as bad. But he made changes and they worked. Off nights shooting happen and when the other team is on fire it can lead to a blowout. That didn't happen and we got the W. As for the game, I give Sharp the game ball.



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In comparing talent levels of each team, yes Dave Rose was outcoached last night. Thankfully some adjustments came, but Rex was the better coach last night; he just doesn't have the talent or experience on his team. The final margin was razor thin, but the difference in actual talent is palpable, yet they led most of the game. I think you'd have a hard time finding a lot of people to say that Rex wasn't the best coach on the evening. You'd have a harder time finding someone to say that USF comes close in the level of talent and depth of this BYU hoops team. San Fran lost 6 players last year, 4 starters, and has no business even being in this game; that's a credit to the coach.

Sorry, but you can't coach 70% from the three point line in the first half. The better coach won the game.


+1. Of our two best players, one was fouled out and both struggled to find their shot during the game. Yet, with those struggles, we still found a way to win the game. Not bad for being so outcoached right!?! I heard the same thing after the Utah game, yet we won both games. Just because another coach has a good game plan doesn't mean we got outcoached. A coach's job is to find a system/way/plan that allows his team to win the game. Last time I checked. We won both the Utah and USF games.
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Schmoe
Just because you win doesn't mean that you weren't outcoached.
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