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Doman interview on True Blue

by frdbtr · 12/11/2012

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frdbtr
1st impression is that I am right about why Riley started this year even while injured. Doman mentions that since he is a team captain they gave him more lattitude to make the decision on starting. 2nd impression, positive news, he says that Taysom will definately be ready for spring. 3rd impression is they are still going to have a running QB but want to teach them to learn how to not take "head on" hits. He may or may not be "on his way out", I think it would be unfair to cut bait with Doman right now. Anae was in over his head his second hear too but since we had guys like Beck and Brown to keep him looking good he got to have a chance to develop. I think Doman deserves more time to develop. If he leaves, I will support the next guy as much as I have supported Doman.
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Mars
frdbtr wrote:
Anae was in over his head his second year too.

When BYU went 11-2, scored 37 points a game (including 38 on Utah State, 31 @ ranked TCU, 47 vs SDSU, 55 on Wyoming, and 33 @ Utah), and beat Oregon 38-8?
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Schmoe
Mars wrote:
Anae was in over his head his second year too.

When BYU went 11-2, scored 37 points a game (including 38 on Utah State, 31 @ ranked TCU, 47 vs SDSU, 55 on Wyoming, and 33 @ Utah), and beat Oregon 38-8?


Who was our O-line coach at the time? Who was our QB?
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frdbtr
Mars wrote:
Anae was in over his head his second year too.

When BYU went 11-2, scored 37 points a game (including 38 on Utah State, 31 @ ranked TCU, 47 vs SDSU, 55 on Wyoming, and 33 @ Utah), and beat Oregon 38-8?


Let me think about this for a sec. Year 1 under Anae, we had the SDSU debacle, the utah debacle where he stopped running the ball and put the ball in Beck's hands even though utah was dropping 8, 9 and 10 into coverage on the last drive with 2 minutes left and on the positive side of the 50 yard line. In year 2 Anae looked like a genius calling plays behind one of the most accurate pin point passers we have ever had. Year 3 with Sophomore Max Hall we lost to Tulsa on the road when Anae wouldn't call running plays to an un stoppable Harvey unga to keep an offense off the field that we had no hope in stopping and lets not even mention the utah game. How did Anae look against TCU in years 4 and 5 and for that matter in year 6? Yeah, I remember all the talk about his boring predictable offense back when everyone wanted him replaced by Brandon doman. I am not saying Doman has looked awesome, I think he has had some issues that were exacerbated by two limited QB's and a horrible offensive line. He deserves more than 2 years to prove that he has "it".
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snoscythe
frdbtr, your last two posts combined gave me a good belly laugh: Post 1: Anae was in over his head in his second year. Post 2: Anae looked like a genius [in year 2] (note that this was buried in a rambling paragraph, but nevertheless the only statement relevant to your defense of the first statement). Which is it?



In 2006, Anae's offense failed to acheive the 24 point benchmark only twice--the home opener loss to Arizona (13 points), and the overtime loss to Matt Ryan at BC (20 pts). I'd take that kind of "in over his head" any day over what we've seen this year where BYU has failed to achieve 24 points or better in 5 games: Utah (21 pts) , BSU (6 pts), USU (6 pts), ND (14 pts), and SJSU (14 pts).



There are levels of generality, and the Doman suckfest has been something otherworldly compared to any second year struggles Anae might have had. You can try and put it on the QB, but who is in charge of recruiting and developing the QBs at BYU? Again, Doman is on the hook.
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frdbtr
snoscythe wrote:
frdbtr, your last two posts combined gave me a good belly laugh: Post 1: Anae was in over his head in his second year. Post 2: Anae looked like a genius [in year 2] (note that this was buried in a rambling paragraph, but nevertheless the only statement relevant to your defense of the first statement). Which is it?



In 2006, Anae's offense failed to acheive the 24 point benchmark only twice--the home opener loss to Arizona (13 points), and the overtime loss to Matt Ryan at BC (20 pts). I'd take that kind of "in over his head" any day over what we've seen this year where BYU has failed to achieve 24 points or better in 5 games: Utah (21 pts) , BSU (6 pts), USU (6 pts), ND (14 pts), and SJSU (14 pts).



There are levels of generality, and the Doman suckfest has been something otherworldly compared to any second year struggles Anae might have had. You can try and put it on the QB, but who is in charge of recruiting and developing the QBs at BYU? Again, Doman is on the hook.


Then maybe he took a year off of being over his head before being over his head in year 3, 4, 5, and 6, since we ran him off for having a boring/stubborn offense in year 6.
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jacksonman
For what it is worth, I think anae needed to go. Too predictable and a roster if Nfl players saved him most of the time. Two of those years we lost only two games and both were lost on offense. His poor play calling kept us from bcs.



I think doman gets one more year to improve. Jut because doman isn't great doesn't mean firing anae was a bad decision. What we need is a better o cord that the past 8 years have given us.



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SpiffCoug
Most coaches likely get "saved" by the players they coach. That's why it's always has and will be about the players.



Gee, when BYU has highly talented QBs like Max Hall,Jim McMahon, Ty Detmer they win a lot of games. When they have guys like Riley Nelson, Steve Lindsley or Bret Engemann, so so much.



Just because a coach has great players doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing and are only getting bailed out.
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Cougs_Rule
frdbtr wrote:
frdbtr, your last two posts combined gave me a good belly laugh: Post 1: Anae was in over his head in his second year. Post 2: Anae looked like a genius [in year 2] (note that this was buried in a rambling paragraph, but nevertheless the only statement relevant to your defense of the first statement). Which is it?



In 2006, Anae's offense failed to acheive the 24 point benchmark only twice--the home opener loss to Arizona (13 points), and the overtime loss to Matt Ryan at BC (20 pts). I'd take that kind of "in over his head" any day over what we've seen this year where BYU has failed to achieve 24 points or better in 5 games: Utah (21 pts) , BSU (6 pts), USU (6 pts), ND (14 pts), and SJSU (14 pts).



There are levels of generality, and the Doman suckfest has been something otherworldly compared to any second year struggles Anae might have had. You can try and put it on the QB, but who is in charge of recruiting and developing the QBs at BYU? Again, Doman is on the hook.


Then maybe he took a year off of being over his head before being over his head in year 3, 4, 5, and 6, since we ran him off for having a boring/stubborn offense in year 6.


"Predictable" is the word you are searching for. HS offense was becoming easier to defend bc it was predictable and limited even more by a running qb who couldn't throw and a freshman who couldn't go deep in the playbook. But his debacle at Utah was the nail in the coffin.
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