Bronco's "love affair" with Riley

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That is a link to the final coaches show that they do on KSL radio. Wrubel asks bronco some very direct questions about Riley and why he has played this year. I would encourage you to listen to it. Quick synopsis is it pays to work your tail off in the off season and gain the trust of your team mates. If you do that you will get more of a free pass as far as playing for the year. If you want to know why Riley has had more lattitude for his poor play this year, that is it.

That is a poor reason as to why you continue to play a QB who is not only ineffective, but hurt badly.



Additionally, I don't care what kind of work ethic you have. If you're a bad, ineffective QB, you shouldn't be on the field. If you're costing the team wins with inconsistent play, and a high number of turnovers, inaccurate passing, and poor execution, you shouldn't be playing.



The fact of the matter is that Bronco isn't holding Riley to the high standard of execution that he holds the rest of his team to. Even when healthy, Riley is average at best.



frdbtr, I have come to respect your opinions here, but I find it strange how you seemingly always have an apologetic attitude toward Riley. I don't quite understand it. There is no excuse for Riley's poor play, and there is no excuse for him continually being on the field when he is inconsistent at best, and the opponent's best player at worst.There's absolutely no excuse for the coaching staff to play him when he is hurt so badly that he can't even celebrate with his teammates and is visibly wincing on the sideline. No way Riley should have been playing in at least 2 games this year. I'm sick of people, including Beonco excusing bad play.



Just because Riley thinks he can play doesn't mean he should be.

Ungoy wrote:
That is a poor reason as to why you continue to play a QB who is not only ineffective, but hurt badly.



Additionally, I don't care what kind of work ethic you have. If you're a bad, ineffective QB, you shouldn't be on the field. If you're costing the team wins with inconsistent play, and a high number of turnovers, inaccurate passing, and poor execution, you shouldn't be playing.



The fact of the matter is that Bronco isn't holding Riley to the high standard of execution that he holds the rest of his team to. Even when healthy, Riley is average at best.



frdbtr, I have come to respect your opinions here, but I find it strange how you seemingly always have an apologetic attitude toward Riley. I don't quite understand it. There is no excuse for Riley's poor play, and there is no excuse for him continually being on the field when he is inconsistent at best, and the opponent's best player at worst.There's absolutely no excuse for the coaching staff to play him when he is hurt so badly that he can't even celebrate with his teammates and is visibly wincing on the sideline. No way Riley should have been playing in at least 2 games this year. I'm sick of people, including Beonco excusing bad play.



Just because Riley thinks he can play doesn't mean he should be.

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I'm glad Riley worked hard and did everything the coaches wanted and earned the trust of his teammates. And that is what you want in a player, quarterback and team leader. But none of that changes the fact that his play was poor, inconsistent and cost the team wins. Riley played his way to the bench and the coaches' respect/admiration/"man-crush" for his intangibles clouded their judgement for Riley's on the field production.



He should have been sat and gotten healthy when he was injured and then he should have been sat for his inconsistent and turnover prone style of play. Winning can trump and mask poor play. Losing doesn't.

Getting a "FREE PASS" when your play sucks on the field is inexcusable. Apparently this Is the case and is Bronco the guy we want coaching our team?? A coach who allows the team to lose because he continues to play players who are performing poorly just because they had a good off-season work ethic shouldn't be coaching college football!!!!!

I heard Riley has pictures of Bronco...

I haven't been making excuses for riley. This thread was posting why Bronco seems to let him get away with anything. I was pretty conflicted when I listened to the interview. Not sure what to think about it. It made me feel, the way Bronco said it, that not only does Bronco want him on the field but his teammates also want him on the field because he is their leader. Maybe someone else who listens to the interview can tell me whether my interpretation of what he was saying sounds correct.

Hard work should be valued. It is essential. And with how Bronco treats RIley, makes me wonder if that is an issue in Bronco's program. If it is, that is on Bronco as well.



I value results and performance more though. Detmer was no workhorse in the weight room, but he led, got in guys faces, and he PERFORMED, which is what mattes most at QB. More so than any other position.



BYU needs to focus on performance and results from teh QB position first and foremost. Players will follow that. Everyone want to win, not come close or be in a position to win, yet lose 5 games.

SpiffCoug wrote:

That is a poor reason as to why you continue to play a QB who is not only ineffective, but hurt badly.



Additionally, I don't care what kind of work ethic you have. If you're a bad, ineffective QB, you shouldn't be on the field. If you're costing the team wins with inconsistent play, and a high number of turnovers, inaccurate passing, and poor execution, you shouldn't be playing.



The fact of the matter is that Bronco isn't holding Riley to the high standard of execution that he holds the rest of his team to. Even when healthy, Riley is average at best.



frdbtr, I have come to respect your opinions here, but I find it strange how you seemingly always have an apologetic attitude toward Riley. I don't quite understand it. There is no excuse for Riley's poor play, and there is no excuse for him continually being on the field when he is inconsistent at best, and the opponent's best player at worst.There's absolutely no excuse for the coaching staff to play him when he is hurt so badly that he can't even celebrate with his teammates and is visibly wincing on the sideline. No way Riley should have been playing in at least 2 games this year. I'm sick of people, including Beonco excusing bad play.



Just because Riley thinks he can play doesn't mean he should be.

^ ^ ^ ^ T H I S ^ ^ ^ ^

I'm glad Riley worked hard and did everything the coaches wanted and earned the trust of his teammates. And that is what you want in a player, quarterback and team leader. But none of that changes the fact that his play was poor, inconsistent and cost the team wins. Riley played his way to the bench and the coaches' respect/admiration/"man-crush" for his intangibles clouded their judgement for Riley's on the field production.



He should have been sat and gotten healthy when he was injured and then he should have been sat for his inconsistent and turnover prone style of play. Winning can trump and mask poor play. Losing doesn't.

THIS assumes you have someone on the bench that you believe will perform better. BYU botched THIS season when they counted on Heaps being here for the future back in 2010 and FAILED to measure Lark and get him ready. Then Heaps transferred after 2011. Too bad they did not invest in Lark again when Nelson went down that year. FINAL NAIL COFFIN.



Coaches seemed to learn from that - but note that it was Hill they were bringing along this year. Bottom line seems to be that Lark does not have coaches confident enough to play him on the road in a big game situation. Ditto Munns. Lark, Munns, Heaps - all failed investments. Nelson was never expected to be the guy - just a bandaid to fill in between THE STARS.



So that is the real question - how do you misfire so badly on Lark, Munns, and Heaps?



If The Bibster were The Broncomeister - I would have red-shirted Jake Heaps as a True Freshman - makes him much less likely to give up a playing year and transfer. Nelson and Lark and Munns for 2010. 2010 would have been ugly unless Lark was better than Heaps was in 2010. Either way - we would have fully measured and tested Lark and had DEPTH.



That is what should have been done. I called it back then. It didn't happen. So we had no depth.



Why do you think most of the predictions posters on here made for 2012 said if Riley stays healthy? You all knew we had no depth. You just forgot.



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I also wanted Heaps to redshirt in 10. word out of the Heaps camp was that he wouldn't redshirt and would transfer if he didn't get to play immediately. Dude held the coaches hostage starting with his press conference.

I think we had opportunities this year to see if we had other options to Riley - specifically during the Utah to Utah St stretch of games when Riley was clearly injured and shouldn't have played in two of those four games.

One of the other things I've tired of Bronco saying is that Riley gave us a chance to win at the end. I don't want chances to win. I want WINS!