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Cusick should start

by hawkwing · 11/19/2012

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Cusick should start, for at least one game. Carlino's play has been terrible for the last two games, and his effort seems to be up and down. If Rose truly believes in keeping his guys accountable, he needs to change the starting lineup,even if just for a time, and say, get your head on straight.
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snoscythe
Well, to be fair, Rose did start Austin Ainge for 3 years, and that's who Carlino most resembles, but far worse at 3P shooting.



Then again, Cusick is like a white, shorter Luiz Lemes.
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scott715
How about telling Carlino, no 3 point shots until he hits 60% of his 2's?
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Cougs_Rule
Sadly, this sounds all too familiar to last year. I believe the offense most often runs more effectively with Cusick at the point. MC brings a certain schizophrenia when he plays. It's almost like he has a Jimmer-wannabe mindset, as in he wants to be "the man", but struggles to fit within what Rose is trying to do. Cusick fits in that better, but not necessarily in a stellar way. But i Do think Cusick should start. Let MC come off the bench and play against the opponents 2nd guy
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Qman
Carlino seems to be trying to do the right thing but he has serious trouble with pressure D because his dribble is too high. He needs to fix his fundamentals-footwork, ballhandling etc.



Maybe he can do whatever drills Haws is doing.
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snoscythe wrote:
Well, to be fair, Rose did start Austin Ainge for 3 years, and that's who Carlino most resembles, but far worse at 3P shooting.



Then again, Cusick is like a white, shorter Luiz Lemes.

Hey I really liked Luiz!



And If I recall, BYU was winning conference championships (and got a W in Vegas) with Luiz. He was an awesome PG!!!!!
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BoiseBYU
snoscythe wrote:
Well, to be fair, Rose did start Austin Ainge for 3 years, and that's who Carlino most resembles, but far worse at 3P shooting.



Then again, Cusick is like a white, shorter Luiz Lemes.


Is it just me that thinks Carlino is a smaller Talverni (sp?). Bald headed dude who loves to see how far away from the basket he can shoot the ball and not get taken out?
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Gunk
Qman wrote:
Carlino seems to be trying to do the right thing but he has serious trouble with pressure D because his dribble is too high. He needs to fix his fundamentals-footwork, ballhandling etc.



Maybe he can do whatever drills Haws is doing.


Haws' handles are horrible. I get nervous everytime he puts the ball on the court.



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Gunk wrote:
Carlino seems to be trying to do the right thing but he has serious trouble with pressure D because his dribble is too high. He needs to fix his fundamentals-footwork, ballhandling etc.



Maybe he can do whatever drills Haws is doing.


Haws' handles are horrible. I get nervous everytime he puts the ball on the court.



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Haws dribbling technique is fine- he just isn't as fast as the people who are guarding him.



Carlino is used to being faster and getting away with his lazy dribbling technique. Mostly Haws has really, really good footwork. That could help Carlino be on balance on his pull up jumpers more often.
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snoscythe
BroncoBot wrote:
Well, to be fair, Rose did start Austin Ainge for 3 years, and that's who Carlino most resembles, but far worse at 3P shooting.



Then again, Cusick is like a white, shorter Luiz Lemes.

Hey I really liked Luiz!



And If I recall, BYU was winning conference championships (and got a W in Vegas) with Luiz. He was an awesome PG!!!!!


That was kind of my point. Cusick/Lemes might not be flashy or get a lot of headlines, but the team seems to do a lot better with him on the floor than with a schizo Carlino/Ainge.
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SpiffCoug
I don't think Carlino is playing awful. He's shooting poorly, but he's distributing the ball well and protecting it pretty decently as well.



Yes, he was abysmal from the floor in NYC, but he did have 5 assists to 3 turnovers on the weekend as well. So at least he wasn't a turnover machine.
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snoscythe
SpiffCoug wrote:
I don't think Carlino is playing awful. He's shooting poorly, but he's distributing the ball well and protecting it pretty decently as well.



Yes, he was abysmal from the floor in NYC, but he did have 5 assists to 3 turnovers on the weekend as well. So at least he wasn't a turnover machine.


So he wasn't scoring or assisting (5 Asst in w games from your starting PG??), but hey, he wasn't turning it over, so let's keep him in.
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SpiffCoug
Yeah, because the guy being called to replaced him shot poorly as well 4-14 (.286) (not as poor as Carlino, but poor as well) and wasn't exactly tearing it up in the AST department either (he also had 5 in two games).
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snoscythe
SpiffCoug wrote:
Yeah, because the guy being called to replaced him shot poorly as well 4-14 (.286) (not as poor as Carlino, but poor as well) and wasn't exactly tearing it up in the AST department either (he also had 5 in two games).


In fewer minutes. Have you bothered looked at the +/- or RR numbers in those games? (RR is the difference between the +/- with a player on the court vs. the +/- with the player off the court--a way of standardizing across a given team)



After all, that is the crux of my argument--the team plays better with Cusick than Carlino.



Cusick[/u]

FSU = plus/minus -1, RR of +16

ND = plus/minus -4, RR = +2



Carlino[/u]

FSU = plus/minus -25, RR of -32

ND = plus/minus -11, RR = -12



Given that Cusick has about the same baseline stats for the position (ppg, apg, topg) with fewer minutes, given that Cusick has a much better +/- for two seasons now and a MUCH better RR rating, and given he is shooting a better percentage from 2 and 3, why would you continue to play Carlino as much, especially in clutch situations (game within 5 points with 5 minutes or less remaining)??
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SpiffCoug
Maybe I'm misinterpreting those stats. But it looks like in the FSU game, BYU was 7 points worse when Carlino was out of the game (as the +/- went from -25 to -32) and was 17 points better when Cusick was out of the game (as the +/- went from -1 to +16). Maybe I'm just not understanding RR.
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Our biggest problem right now is perimeter defense. We allow way too many open 3's. How many freakin' times was Zylstra burned by Grant or whatever his name was for Notre Dame?? It was just stupid.......We need to improve defensively and Zylstra and Cusick are the main culprits right now. What about Haws/Zylstra at the 3, Winder/Calvert at the 2?? Having Calvert play some 2 behind Winder might improve our defense dramatically. Our defense is HORRENDOUS right now
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snoscythe wrote:
snoscythe wrote:
Well, to be fair, Rose did start Austin Ainge for 3 years, and that's who Carlino most resembles, but far worse at 3P shooting.



Then again, Cusick is like a white, shorter Luiz Lemes.

Hey I really liked Luiz!



And If I recall, BYU was winning conference championships (and got a W in Vegas) with Luiz. He was an awesome PG!!!!!


That was kind of my point. Cusick/Lemes might not be flashy or get a lot of headlines, but the team seems to do a lot better with him on the floor than with a schizo Carlino/Ainge.

Got it. And I agree. Whoever does the best job of limiting turnovers and getting the ball into the hands of Davies/Haws should be playing the most minutes. I don't care who starts really.
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snoscythe
SpiffCoug wrote:
Maybe I'm misinterpreting those stats. But it looks like in the FSU game, BYU was 7 points worse when Carlino was out of the game (as the +/- went from -25 to -32) and was 17 points better when Cusick was out of the game (as the +/- went from -1 to +16). Maybe I'm just not understanding RR.


You're interpreting the RR completely backwards. Cusick's RR is phenomenal, Carlino's sucks :utard:
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SpiffCoug
Just so I understand this then. So if Cusick's +/- is -1 but his RR is +16, that means when he was out of the game, BYU's +/- was -17?



And if Carlino's +/- is -25 but his RR is -32, that means BYU was +7 when he was out of the game?



Seems like an interesting stat that I haven't heard of before and want to understand.
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From Greg Wrubell:

Tonight will be Matt Carlino's 30th game at BYU. First 10 games: 25/54 3pfg, 46.3%. Next 19 games: 17/83 3pfg, 20.5%. That's just strange.
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