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ND Battering Ram

by Cougarbib · 11/3/2012

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Pitt kicking ND butt. Just turned it on a bit ago. ND pulled their pocket passer after pick - Rees - put in FRESHMAN mobile QB - Golsen. Using him as a battering ram. Trying to get him injured again. Brian Kelly - mismanaging his QBs. What else can he do - he does not have a great starter and his back-up is inexperienced.



Teo having a quiet game. Heisman out the window.



Pitt.



Who was it that said ND did not have any tough games left.



Gotta suit up every week.



TD - their battering ram is a fairly accurate passer.



Missed EP. Is this a BYU game in ND clothing?



As DM would say - WAISTED OPPORTUNITY. Sorry DM - been chuckling about that spelling error for a couple of weeks.



8 point game - can the ND battering ram make a 2 point conversion.



Better yet - can their ST tackle - gave up a huge return to the 42.



ND needs to get a stop or create a turnover.
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Cougarbib
Battering Ram Golsen has been running down Pitt's throat - first and goal - throws it near pick - pass play does not see wide open receiver in the end zone - comes back to receiver in corner of the end zone - pick.



Maybe another quarterback draw or option play would work better with an inexperienced QB.



WAISTED opportunity.



Can USC defense get an immediate stop or create a turnover? They need 8 in less than 4 minutes -dropped snap - recovered by Pitt - STOP -



ND should get good field position - need to drive for 8 on this drive - just to tie.



Comment made about Golsen after the pick: With Golsen, you get what you get - gotta take the bad with the good.



Eerily familiar.
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Cougarbib
Scramble for 10 seconds. bAM pass to 10. Ugly but caught. Designed QB run - not there - scrambles - BAM TD. Pass. Battering ram - runs and dives - for 2. Good.



Tied.



Maybe the opportunity has not been WAISTED or even WASTED.



A week ago Brian Kelly commented that he loves a mobile QB. Probably really does no.



Golsen runs like T Hill, but throws better.
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Cougarbib
Teo gets a sack after ND misses a near interception.



This D is going to get another stop.



ND WAISTED a time-out on clock confusion on out of bounds play. Still might be enough time. 1:44



This is Why ND is undefeated - though they still might lose this game - there defense gets key stops and creates turnovers to compensate for an inconsistent offense and ST.



ND nearly fumbles the punt. Lucky bounce.



Golsen tripped by his own guy. Lost 8 yards. Second and 18.
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Cougarbib
Waisted Opportunity on 3rd and 7. No PI called - incomplete. ND needs a stop. Near INT.



Can ND get one more stop and get to OT.



I think so.
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OT



ND defense has come alive - just in the nick of time.



Has momentum going to OT.



Who do you want - passer Rees or Battering Ram - gunslinger - inexperienced - Golsen.



Or do they wish they had their former 5* Senior - Chryst - back from KU?
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Cougarbib
ND showing how home field advantage crowd noise wins games. Holds them. Forces a field goal. 23-20 Pitt.





ND kicking has been shaky though. Golsen is hot and cold.



Should be interesting.



Golsen comes back late - incomplete pass.



RB gets 1.



Golsen batters for 5.



Kicker?



Good. Barely. Wobbled. But good. Tied.
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Cougarbib
Golsen - wearing Teo's number



Incomplete pass - nearly picked.



ND runs for a first down at 14. They have fast, strong running backs.



ND runs for 4. Runs for another 3.



Run? Pass? 3rd and 3. ND time-out.



Run for 1st down and goal inside the 4.



Golsen batters to 2.



RB fumbles at the goal line



Pitt just needs a FG. Pitt -zero turnovers. ND -3 turnovers.



ND defense needs to create a turnover or push Pitt back.



Will they QUIT given offense issues?



3rd and 1. STOP.



Pitt kicker has been money.



Missed. High snap.
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Cougarbib
Pitt



Runs for about 4

pocket passer - sacked

Incomplete

44 yard attempt



High snap - kick curves back in - now 4/5 in the game. Good kicker.



Pitt 26 ND 23



Golsen bootleg



pass - out of bounds

Pass - first down



RB for 3

RB for 4

Battering Ram QB first down inside the 1.

Under Review. Confirmed.



QB Sneak. TD - undefeated - barely
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Cougarbib
The last time ND was 9-0 was 1993.



Why do we care



It would be nice if our Top 10 losses hold up as Top 10.



With Oregon spanking USC so far in LA - ND may drop to #4.



Manti Teo certainly seems to continue to be a topic of interest around here.



A well-respected coach used his QB as a battering ram and won. If T Hill passing improves, Hill could be a weapon, even if he relies on his wheels more than some want. We better have a back-up as Golsen has been in and out this year.
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The media has already decided who will play in the MNC game: Bama and Oregon, regardless of what ND and KSU do, these two will play for the title unless one of them loses a game (even though Oregon has no defense).
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Cougarbib
Bama is down 3 in 4th - I would love to see them fall - even though I hate to see LSUvwin. In a dilemma,nI always vote for whatever is worst for The SEC.
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Cougarbib wrote:
Bama is down 3 in 4th - I would love to see them fall - even though I hate to see LSUvwin. In a dilemma,nI always vote for whatever is worst for The SEC.


Totally agree. It will be fun to see the controversy this year when a one-loss SEC team gets in over a couple undefeated BCS teams.
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LSU misses FG and Bama goes the distance for the TD. Dang.



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Cougarbib wrote:
LSU misses FG and Bama goes the distance for the TD. Dang.



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Les Miles really screwed that one up.
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Schmoe wrote:
The media has already decided who will play in the MNC game: Bama and Oregon, regardless of what ND and KSU do, these two will play for the title unless one of them loses a game (even though Oregon has no defense).


ND does not have a shot yet and does not deserve it based on us playing tight games with opponents we should easily beat (ex: Pitt).



I believe ND could beat KSU, Oregon I think we could stick with them (power football), and Bama would beat us. ND only deserves a shot if others lose....I am a fan, but we have not destroyed people like we should.
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Irish Cougar
Cougarbib wrote:
Pitt kicking ND butt. Just turned it on a bit ago. ND pulled their pocket passer after pick - Rees - put in FRESHMAN mobile QB - Golsen. Using him as a battering ram. Trying to get him injured again. Brian Kelly - mismanaging his QBs. What else can he do - he does not have a great starter and his back-up is inexperienced.



Teo having a quiet game. Heisman out the window.



Pitt.



Who was it that said ND did not have any tough games left.



Gotta suit up every week.



TD - their battering ram is a fairly accurate passer.



Missed EP. Is this a BYU game in ND clothing?



As DM would say - WAISTED OPPORTUNITY. Sorry DM - been chuckling about that spelling error for a couple of weeks.



8 point game - can the ND battering ram make a 2 point conversion.



Better yet - can their ST tackle - gave up a huge return to the 42.



ND needs to get a stop or create a turnover.




To be clear the starting QB from day one this year is Golson (Freshman QB), Rees played in a few situations and started against BYU due to Golson's concussion. Rees has done well in a few unique positions, bad against BYU. Rees is the ND version of Riley.....he is known as "Turnover Tommy"; he has done better this year but is not a huge fan favorite. Golson on the other hand has a better arm, is more mobile and will be great in the future but still young.



ND's issue is we play to the level of our competitions. If we we play OU we have no turnovers and 1 penatly, we play Pitt and we have 3 turnovers and 12 penalties. We are young but need to play all in no matter who we play. Purdue, BYU and Pitt games were as if ND did not even show up until the 4th quarter; we will get beat if we keep doing this.
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Irish Cougar wrote:
Pitt kicking ND butt. Just turned it on a bit ago. ND pulled their pocket passer after pick - Rees - put in FRESHMAN mobile QB - Golsen. Using him as a battering ram. Trying to get him injured again. Brian Kelly - mismanaging his QBs. What else can he do - he does not have a great starter and his back-up is inexperienced.



Teo having a quiet game. Heisman out the window.



Pitt.



Who was it that said ND did not have any tough games left.



Gotta suit up every week.



TD - their battering ram is a fairly accurate passer.



Missed EP. Is this a BYU game in ND clothing?



As DM would say - WAISTED OPPORTUNITY. Sorry DM - been chuckling about that spelling error for a couple of weeks.



8 point game - can the ND battering ram make a 2 point conversion.



Better yet - can their ST tackle - gave up a huge return to the 42.



ND needs to get a stop or create a turnover.




To be clear the starting QB from day one this year is Golson (Freshman QB), Rees played in a few situations and started against BYU due to Golson's concussion. Rees has done well in a few unique positions, bad against BYU. Rees is the ND version of Riley.....he is known as "Turnover Tommy"; he has done better this year but is not a huge fan favorite. Golson on the other hand has a better arm, is more mobile and will be great in the future but still young.



ND's issue is we play to the level of our competitions. If we we play OU we have no turnovers and 1 penatly, we play Pitt and we have 3 turnovers and 12 penalties. We are young but need to play all in no matter who we play. Purdue, BYU and Pitt games were as if ND did not even show up until the 4th quarter; we will get beat if we keep doing this.


Although I agree that the team has been inconsistent, don't be too down on them.. They started a Freshan because their all everything would be senior that turned out to not be all everything transferred to Kansas where he has not won a game since winning a cup-cake opener. Since Chryst was a bust, ND has had to work through the vacuum of experience and talent left by that failed investment. Enter Rees, who started a few games last year, iirc, but he has been inconsistent. Enter Golsen, but he got injured, then came back. Change the names to Heaps, Nelson, and Hill,band BYU fans should be able to relate.



Throw in a very inconsistent kicker, iirc, and you have ND undefeated where BYU is not. Both teams have very good, but imperfect, defenses. ND creates more turnovers.



ND has a monster OL. BYU has had a musical chairs carousel of inexperienced and eventually injured centers. They have had an injury plagued and inexperienced OL over all. That is the main difference between winning the close ones and losing them. That plus ND being at home and having the crowd helping them vs BYU and Pitt, and BYU trying to pull out a close one @U, @BSU, and @ND.
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Cougarbib wrote:

Although I agree that the team has been inconsistent, don't be too down on them.. They started a Freshan because their all everything would be senior that turned out to not be all everything transferred to Kansas where he has not won a game since winning a cup-cake opener. Since Chryst was a bust, ND has had to work through the vacuum of experience and talent left by that failed investment. Enter Rees, who started a few games last year, iirc, but he has been inconsistent. Enter Golsen, but he got injured, then came back. Change the names to Heaps, Nelson, and Hill,band BYU fans should be able to relate.



Throw in a very inconsistent kicker, iirc, and you have ND undefeated where BYU is not. Both teams have very good, but imperfect, defenses. ND creates more turnovers.



ND has a monster OL. BYU has had a musical chairs carousel of inexperienced and eventually injured centers. They have had an injury plagued and inexperienced OL over all. That is the main difference between winning the close ones and losing them. That plus ND being at home and having the crowd helping them vs BYU and Pitt, and BYU trying to pull out a close one @U, @BSU, and @ND.




I agree ND is in a much better spot than BYU. ND seems to shot themselves in the foot and it will come back to bite. Crist is a great kid, he could not handle the pressure....strong arm, just struggles. Golson will be the real deal assuming he can stay healthy and ND signed Gunner Kiel (LSU verbal, but last minute switch)....he was ranked the #1 to #3 rated QB in the class. We have talent, just young.



The ND kicker has nearly killed ND. 2 missed FGs against BYU, 1 missed FG and 1 missed extra point against Pitt and a missed FG against OU. BYU's kicker is bad too....you feel my pain.



ND's OL is significantly better than BYU's, BUT has major issues and is very hit and miss. Golson has made them look good at times, and at times against average lines we can dominate and run the ball at will (vs Miami). We have talent at WR, it is just young.



Defense is great and should continue to be, outside of Manti the defense is young. Manti will be a HUGE loss, but others should mature.



Overall ND has the talent for the next several years, we need to make sure we have the right mindset. ND plays significantly better on the road, the best games of the year have all been road games: OU, Michigan State, Miami and Navy......worst games were at home: BYU, Pitt, Purdue.
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