BYU vs ISU Bengals 7:30 MST Radio only

Wasn't this the game we won by 20 points but there was almost a brawl?



This should be fun to do again.

Their head coach threatened to "kick Dave Rose's" ass...



Welcome to Provo coach...

craigoscarson wrote:
Their head coach threatened to "kick Dave Rose's" ass...



Welcome to Provo coach...

That seems rather inappropriate for what Coach Rose has been through. I guess the dude does live in Idaho though, they seem to have some serious problems up there :roll:

Craig! Welcome to the dark side! Gotta respect you for showing the loyalty you did to the other site, but glad you're here (afterall, they shoulda thought about giving a bit of loyalty BACK). And I'm glad to have another roundball-first fan over here too. Should make the basketball discussions better than they have been.



Oh, Hawk, Craig's referring to the kafuffle when we played them last year, so to be fair to the guy, even Rose didn't know what he'd be going through at the time. Still, I don't know why, but I'd have LOVED to see what'd happen if O'brien TRIED to take a swing at Rose. Something tells me a 6'6" 250lb Rose would be able to make short order of the situation. :evil:



Too bad nobody'll be able to see it on TV. This mtn pissin' contest with BYUTV is getting a little old.



I actually see this as being a good learning experience for our team. ISU may have lost a lot of starters (don't remember), but they're a senior-laden team this year, which should mean they've got some maturity to them. Looking at the box scores from their first two games, it looks like their coach is whittling down their rotation. Their first game, against Iowa State, saw 9 guys on the court with at least 10 minutes of playing time. The second game, against Bradley, put only 7 guys on the court for at least 10 minutes. Their two exhibition games saw 8 apiece. (For comparison, our two exhibitions saw 10 and 11 players with at least 10 minutes, and our Bradley game saw 9.) Too early to tell if the ISU trend will stick, but it may mean their coach isn't a fan of their depth.



Still they're pretty similar to us in that they get most of their offensive productivity from their guards. They also look to play on the small side. They start a 7-footer (Lithuanian kid), but he hasn't gotten more than 23 minutes either of their first two games, and it's not because of foul trouble (3 total fouls in two games). He averaged 2 points, 5 rebounds in the first two. Meh. Their productive post player last game (majority of the minutes, points, etc) is a 6'8" kid, but he didn't see much time in their first game. Interesting. Not sure what to make of it then. Hopefully it'll mean our bigs will get some experience without getting overly exposed or making themselves a liability (read: Miles). They've got a crossover 2/3 at 6'5 who's pretty productive, and they've got 2 small guards (6'0 and 6'2) that get most of the PT, the team high-scorer being the smaller of the two. Hopefully a bigger guard on him will squelch that as well. Mr. Gilchrest, meet the returning MWC defensive player of the year, Jackson Emery. Good luck! :lol:



Good AND bad news is, this won't be a cakewalk. I'm not worried, but they'll not just disappear because we show up. They didn't make the Iowa State game much of a contest, but they played Bradley tight (had the lead under 3 minutes left), on the road. I'd spot 'em a few points for being away, and put them about on par with Bradley. If that's true, and we can improve on last game, we'd probably do just fine to end this in the 15 point range. Couple bounces, couple calls go their way, they get emotional, and we could be looking at a tight game.



I'll say with as many seniors as they play, they'll have learned about as much from their last game as we did, so I'll say another 10 point win.

Interesting, I didn't think Idaho State would be that good this year. Thanks for the great breakdown!

Yea that is better breakdown than any of the local newspapers.



At home we should roll.

Qman wrote:
Yea that is better breakdown than any of the local newspapers.

Well, thank you for the compliments, guys, but what's funny is that I was being serious when I said all I did was look at the box scores from the last two games. It's really not rocket surgery, which brings me to your point, Q... How bleeding hard is it to do what I did for a local paper writeup? Took 20 minutes! Oh well.



Anyway, yeah, should be a decent test and a decent learning experience without the hastle of doubting the outcome too much.

The really stupid thing about the game not being on tv.. Atleast on my schedule from comcast for the Mtn.. Replays of press conferences.. Nothing live... LAME.. why have the network if you aren't going to put the games on it anyway?

I agree completely, Five-Oh. I understand that there is a financial requirement for the mtn to put a gamestaff, equipment and announcers at a game, even if there isn't any other live programming, so from that perspective, I can see to where they'd try and weigh what avertising dollars they'd make for what it'd cost to get the game on the air. If advertising didn't cover costs, it isn't gonna go on air. I get that.



What I don't get is why the mtn isn't willing to allow any games they're not picking up to be shown on BYUTV. There are no (well, minimal) sunken costs for anyone, as BYUTV is self-sufficinent. It honestly reminds me a little of the DirecTV / Versus spat, exept NOBODY'S losing money if BYUTV carries games that mtn has rights to but has decided they're not showing. Nobody's ever given me an acceptable explanation why this is the case that doesn't sound like testosterone-laden-pissin'-contest!!! Grr.

Yup. Audio only. Sucks, huh? Oh well, it's 30-21 with 6 left in the 1st half. SOUNDS like we're playing well.

28-7 run in the last 10 minutes. Bout a minute left in the half. 34-21.

Bradley's point broke his arm during the ISU game.... (not good since we were hoping that Bradley coudl potentially be a tourney team)



Like I said in the prediction thread; this isn't going to be a close game.... We're going to beat ISU quite easily.



I said this last year that ISU has some good basketball players, but they're just not a great team this year.



And yeah, Nathan, I was a CB holdout (not sure what I thought would happen to change things there), but ultimately the place has fallen apart. The Herald and mods should be kicking themselves... what a waste of their investment.

A Steed free zone will be nice. (Chad/Hawk and Brad/Snos were badgering me to get over here ;) )

And Greg Wrubell just quoted Ron Burgandy! I KNEW I liked that guy!

Said he, "In the words of Ron Burgandy, 'Well that really got outta hand fast!!!' That escalated really quickly!' They're using everything but a trident in this 1st half!"

Greg is the MAN!



43 - 24 at the half, and that was after a last second 3 by ISU. We're sounding pretty solid. Making wise decisions, playing with high intensity. We're making LOTS of freethrows. 14 of 15. Nice! And that includes 4 for 4 from our post players, Miles and Davies. USEFUL, THAT!!!

"There were horses and a man on fire and I killed a guy with a trident"



How do I get my avatar off CB?

hawkwing wrote:

Their head coach threatened to "kick Dave Rose's" ass...



Welcome to Provo coach...

That seems rather inappropriate for what Coach Rose has been through. I guess the dude does live in Idaho though, they seem to have some serious problems up there :roll:

Ha, that would be reaching a :utard: level of classlessness. He said that after the game last year.

I thought you'd appreciate that little nugget, Craig. I couldn't stop laughing as he was expounding on the art that is Anchorman...

Wow, Hartsock starting the 2nd half for JT and Haws starting for Abouo. Rose isn't afraid to let his guys know he's not afraid to bench 'em for bad decisions etc.

Okay, I'm not watching it, but Miles really isn't sounding that hot against their two post players. They're making shots and drawing fouls, getting offensive rebounds, and Miles is doing neither. Hmm. Greg said earlier he's expecting to see Davies start before too long over Miles. Innnnnteresting!

GolfDiveNCougs wrote:
Wow, Hartsock starting the 2nd half for JT and Haws starting for Abouo. Rose isn't afraid to let his guys know he's not afraid to bench 'em for bad decisions etc.

Great sign, our depth is scary... If every guy on the team (besides Jimmer) treats their minutes on the floor like a sixth man, our energy is going to be amazing...



Don't expect this type of shuffling when we play good teams... but it's nice to see. If you've got the depth, use it to motivate the entire team.



I was really hoping that Miles and Abouo would be so far ahead of the rest that by the time this season started that their minutes would be guaranteed; but apparently it hasn't worked out that way, and we're still getting quality minutes from those positions. (which only helps to improve the play of Abouo and Miles; both players we need to make this a very special season)