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Norm Chow on loss to BYU

by Ungoy · 9/29/2012

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Ungoy
I don't know if this is being taken out of context, but Norm Chow sounds like he's got a lot of sour grapes, and absolutely no love toward BYU anymore. If this quote is accurate, then it comes across as douchebaggery.



Fro Jay Drew:

UH coach Norm Chow on the 47-0 loss to BYU: "It's not about [BYU]. It's about us ... It had nothing to do with them."



I beg to differ. It had everything to do with BYU. They scored a lot of points, and you scored none. Who kept you from scoring? Answer: BYU's defense. They had everything to do with your piss poor performance, Norm. Have some class in defeat, and give BYU credit where credit is due.
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Ungoy
Another Jay Drew Tweet:



UH coach Norm Chow on BYU: "Our lack of ability to tackle and lack of ability to move the ball on offense. It had nothing to do with them."
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Schmoe
Yep, and he refused to let a player transfer to just one school. Chow's still holding a grudge about not getting the HC job here.
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BoiseBYU
Chow's comments are so off base they are hilarious. He barely shook Bronco's hand before rushing away. I suppose it is embarrassing to be shut out two games in a row, but come on Norm, you can still be a man and gracious. Appantly BYU could have just sat on the sidelines and watched the Rainbows lose to us. Pathetic.
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DarthMagnus
Apparently some people around here are unaware of the circumstances surrounding the departure of Chow from BYU. Couldn't have had anything to do with racist remarks coming from a VP or the AD. Definitely not. Institutional BYU is perfect after all... /s



Anyhow, I listened to his postgame comments live and the tweets make it sound much worse than it was. In context, I don't think he was trying to slight BYU. The question was basically asking how great a football team was and his response was essentially, "they are obviously a very good football team, but this isn't about them."



I'm sure he has some sour grapes for BYU. I think for the most part though, the tweets here are a bit out of context.
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Cougy_Monster
DarthMagnus wrote:
Apparently some people around here are unaware of the circumstances surrounding the departure of Chow from BYU. Couldn't have had anything to do with racist remarks coming from a VP or the AD. Definitely not. Institutional BYU is perfect after all... /s



Anyhow, I listened to his postgame comments live and the tweets make it sound much worse than it was. In context, I don't think he was trying to slight BYU. The question was basically asking how great a football team was and his response was essentially, "they are obviously a very good football team, but this isn't about them."



I'm sure he has some sour grapes for BYU. I think for the most part though, the tweets here are a bit out of context.


Skousen apologized a long time ago for his "joke" about Chinese workers. Chow definitely appears to hold a grudge against BYU for whatever reason. The comment was wrong over a decade ago. It appears that Chow has the problem now. Of course who wouldn't be pissed after getting humiliated on national tv. I don't blame Chow for trying to save face in his post-game interviews. It just backfired and makes him look like a sore loser.



No matter what, it always comes across better if a coach credits the other team for playing a better game. He doesn't have to admit the other team is better, just that they put together a better product for a few hours.



I was so glad when Chow left BYU. I can't imagine him as head coach. Gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Cougarbib
This is what Chow said:



We, UH, sucked badly and we need to improve significantly to beat anyone. Truth spoken.



And, yes - there is no love lost between Chow and BYU. Chow was run out of town by unrealistic BYU fans. IDK if he would have been a good HC. Y fans got Crowton instead. And now Bronco. And the whiny ones will never be satisfied.



Tonight was good pat pack for what Chow and Utah did to us just last year. Last year was payback for what BYU did to Chow and UCLA.



Next year, we play Chow in Honolulu. The Warriors will circle that game. BYU was Rival 1 back in the day. Then it became BSU. I will be BYU again. They will treat it as such while BYU will treat it as just another game vs an inferior opponent.



Ask Detmer where that can lead.



BYU is and always had been a better team. UH, sometimes, rises up vs BYU in Honolulu.



No need to hate Chow. He did a ton of good things at BYU.



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Cougy_Monster
Cougarbib wrote:

And, yes - there is no love lost between Chow and BYU. Chow was run out of town by unrealistic BYU fans. IDK if he would have been a good HC. Y fans got Crowton instead. And now Bronco. And the whiny ones will never be satisfied.


Do you really think Chow was run out of town? He could have stayed on as OC and asst HC. He just wanted to be HC and the AD didn't want to hire him. That happens all the time. Being OC when the HC leaves doesn't automatically qualify you to be elevated to HC. When Bronco leaves I sure hope the BYU admin looks beyond Doman for HC prospects.



Maybe Chow was afraid the new HC wouldn't want to keep him on as OC so he decided to leave earlier than necessary on his own. That turned out to be a great personal decision. He accomplished great things (truly incredible things actually) for a few years in the college ranks before hitting some stumbling blocks in the NFL.



And as far as unrealistic expectations, Chow had become so stagnant in his play-calling in his last couple years at BYU that pretty much anybody in the stands could tell you what the next play would be. I don't know what may have been going on behind the scenes -- maybe Chow felt he had little talent to work with and had no choice but to limit his playbook. But the BYU offense that everyone was used to disappeared while Chow was still at the helm.



Personally, and this is obviously just my opinion, the BYU-Chow split was great for both parties. Had Chow stayed on as HC he would have inherited the dying program that Crowton performed CPR on for several years before being declared dead. But instead, Chow got a fresh start at NC St and his play calling creativity and QB coaching genius got revived. I think leaving BYU was the best thing that happened to him. He had grown complacent at BYU it seemed and moving somewhere new forced him to prove himself again so he dug deep and struck gold.



Had Chow stayed at BYU Im afraid he would have done worse than Crowton at keeping the dying program alive. Toward the end of Lavell's tenure the recruiting plummeted. Crowton inherited the most miserable group of underclassmen skill position players imaginable. Obviously he got 1 good year with Staley and Doman, although Doman really benefited from Crowton's play calling rather than Crowton benefiting from having a gifted and talented QB (which Doman wasn't). But after that year Crowton was left with the worst WRs, RBs, QBs in the last 3 decades at BYU. Chow was lucky to be off at USC coaching some real talent while Crowton was starting freshmen at QB who were throwing to WRs who could barely run a 4.6 40 downhill.



Anyway, Chow did great stuff for BYU. Any true BYU homer will have respect for the tradition he successfully maintained after guys like Scovil built the BYU passing game. And Chow taught Detmer how to break a gazillion NCAA records and for those couple years in the stands watching the most exciting offense ever in college football up to that time I'll be forever grateful.



But I'm still glad he left BYU when he did. :)
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Lawboy
I think his comments are fine. He has a team he was speaking to and trying to get their attention that they have to be better. Bronco says similar things.



BYU was a better team clearly, but Hawaii till played poorly and did not help themselves.
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