Will Wynn Crumble or Shine Against TCU?

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Aside from the fact that he couldn't look any gayer in this picture, how do you think Wynn will do against TCU?



Will Beadles keep Hughes in check allowing him to throw. He seems like a decent passer, something Cain most definitely was not. Will Utah's decent O-line allow Utah to establish a running game and protect Wynn?



It seems to me that Utah's defense is going to give TCU's offense a run for their money. TCU's offense is good, but not that good and if Utah gets pressure on Dalton this seems to be his weakness.



I see this being a low scoring game unfortunately. I think TCU wins handedly if they can cause Wynn to throw a few interceptions. Problem is Wynn is used to going against a speedy defense every week.



I am torn on this game. I would say that Utah doesn't manage to put up more than 13 points. I think TCU will put up 17 to 20 points.



I hope I am wrong and TCU just obliterates Utah. That would just make my whole week. I think that Wynn ends up throwing at least two picks. I hope TCU handles the pressure and doesn't come out flat. I don't think they will. This is last year's byu game to them. Patterson will have them UP and READY. I am going to say crumble.

I think Wynn turns it over 2 times and TCU pounces. Utah is a slow starting team this year, and TCU will get up early and make Utah 1 dimensional. Utah is good, but Oregon hung 34 on them and TCU will be close to that. Plus, Utah will not score more than 1 TD, unless the Utah D scores.



By the way, did you mention that Utah is at the bottom nationally in red zone offense? Utah will not get the big plays v. TCU, so Utah is going to struggle to get 6.



TCU 34

Utah 13



And Ute will talk about how they lose by less than BYU did in Ft. Worth.

It was interesting to see Greg Wrubell have reservations about this game as he's seeing it as I am that Utah in the last few years has just seemed to come out on top in "most" (not all because "Harline's still open" and "4th and 28") big games, but I gave them no hope whatsoever in the Sugar Bowl last January even if Alabama was down for not being in the national championship and then they went out and just whipped them like dirty rug.



QB is one of their most vulnerable positions.



Someone asked Patterson if TCU was cresting at the right time and I'd be a bit worried at that if I were him because they have been just rolling over people pretty well as of late and that's when teams get vulnerable.

I thought Utah would beat Bama last year because Bama was overrated and horrible on O, and Utah was really talented with great senior leadership. Utah does not have it this year. That D is very good, but not as good as last year, certainly not dominant. And their O this year is dreadful. Utah rolled UNLV, Wyoming, USU and other weakling s last year. This year, not so much. If the Utah tea shows up same as every other game this year--think SJSU, USU, Wyo, UNLV, AFA, etc, TCU will roll them. Plus, the 2008 game will have the Frogs ready to play and they will not overlook this game. They are going to come out pumped like they did v. BYU is 2008. Wynn will not be able to handle that. Patterson is going to throw looks at him he is not ready for. Guaranteed. Freshman get killed in these games.

Utah has a knack for pulling out wins--like TCU, Oregon State and Alabama in 08. The problem for them though is this year they're having to pull out wins against some pretty crappy teams. Utah will get exposed and Wynn will get beat up. Just my take.

Utah hasn't beaten a legit top 25 team (a team that finishes ranked) on the road since 1994. They won't start now.

True freshman just don't win games like these against (arguably) the best defense in the country. TCU is just so complete - they really don't have a weakness anywhere. Utah has shown that their offense is stagnant and troublesome at times. They've had to pull multiple games out of their backsides against teams that shouldn't have given them any trouble. Once Wynn gets knocked down a couple times, starts firing balls to get rid of it, and has his first turnover, the game will be over. I really don't think he has any clue what he's up against. :munch:

I feel bad for the kid, he's going to get absolutely crushed vs TCU. Roll Frogs?

You guys remember John Beck as a sophomore right? Back in 2004? Yeah, that will be Wynn at TCU. This kid can be really good(I hate saying it too), but he is not there right now. I think the TCU D is salivating as we speak. The orcs will get their fresh meats.

mormonrasta wrote:
Utah hasn't beaten a legit top 25 team (a team that finishes ranked) on the road since 1994. They won't start now.

Except Alabama last year. I guess technically it wasn't a road game since it was a neutral site.

jonnylingo wrote:
It seems to me that Utah's defense is going to give TCU's offense a run for their money. TCU's offense is good, but not that good and if Utah gets pressure on Dalton this seems to be his weakness. I see this being a low scoring game...

"Dalton ranks No. 4 in the NCAA in pass efficiency at 162.71...

...TCU is outscoring opponents by 236 points...

...TCU ranks No. 3 in pass efficiency in the nation, No. 3 in kickoff returns, No. 13 in punt returns, No. 6 in rushing offense, No. 7 passing offense, No. 6 in scoring offense and No. 8 in total offense."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705343819/TCU-in-good-hands-with-Dalton-at-QB.html?pg=2

Crumble...



TCUs defense is that good. They've made Hall look like a freshman in his junior and senior year. Wynn hasn't seen anything like the TCU defense, even with the U's defensive speed.



It's TCU's year. They've been building up to this just like Utah and BSU. Patterson is a master motivator and Utah punked them at RES last year. TCU still gets up for BYU based on the 2006 game when we gave them their first loss that year at home. TCU remembers what happened last year and they'll be ready. It won't be pretty. And, they got their wake up call against Air Force, so there won't be a let down the rest of the year.



TCU 42 - 12 Utah

I am still not convinced that TCU's offense is that good. Have they really faced any stout defenses yet? I don't know much about Clemson but the best defense they have played is probably air force and they won that game by three points. Yes it was in the snow...etc. etc., but I don't think TCU's offense holds up very well against a team like Florida and I don't think they will score that much on Utah because Utah should be able to get some pressure on Dalton.



I'm not comparing Florida's D with Utah's but Utah's D is very good and will slow their offense down. Not enough though. That combined with the fact that Utah is really going to struggle putting points up unless they getting lucky like they usually do with a kick return or something leads to a Utah loss by a couple scores.



I am really just hoping in my heart that TCU trounces them.

The Frogs have the D to expose Utah. I think Wynn will be very solid for the U in the future. But this week Wynn will have a tough time adjusting to TCU's speed. It will be a long day for the young kid. I see four TOs and a bunch of TCU points off turnovers. TCU wins going away 37-10.

Passing Efficiency is the single best statistic in predicting victory on the football field. Using it offensively for Utah is difficult because Wynn doesn't have much to go on. But we can do it for TCU's offense and defense and Utah's defense.



TCU Passing Efficiency Offense: 166.08

TCU Passing Efficiency Defense: 95.38

Utah Passing Efficiency Offense: 141.22 (158.9 under Wynn)

Utah Passing Efficiency Defense: 99.70



That gives TCU a Passing Efficiency Differential of 70.7

That gives Utah a Passing Efficiency Differential of 41.5 (59.2)



Teams that have a PEO in the 160s win .762 of their games.



Teams with a differential of 70 points or more win .950 of their games.



TCU will ROLL in this game.

Beadles won't be blocking Hughes. Beadles will stay at LT and Hughes always lines up on the (defensive) left. This was a subject of discussion on local radio a couple days ago. Gunther thinks it could be a problem for the Utes.



TCU running out of the 4-2-5 is just sick. Theyll be able to stop the run with their front 6 and shut down most passing options. Think our loss to TCU but with a significantly worse offense-one so bad that it won't matter how good the Utes D is. Then again, it is Utah, so they'll get points off a lucky bounce or two, but it won't ever really be close.



TCU 38 Utah 10