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The Yewt game is usually half the season to me

by KingCoug · 7/19/2012

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KingCoug
This year it's probably around 90%.



We could win the 11 other games. But after the total debacles in the rivalry game the last two years, if we don't beat the Yewts this season, I'll be disappointed. No, not just disappointed. Disgusted. And Bronco's stock, in my book at least, will plummet. And I'm the guy who is usually defending Bronco.



We beat the Yewts. If not, nothing else matters.
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ABYUFAN
KingCoug wrote:
This year it's probably around 90%.



We could win the 11 other games. But after the total debacles in the rivalry game the last two years, if we don't beat the Yewts this season, I'll be disappointed. No, not just disappointed. Disgusted. And Bronco's stock, in my book at least, will plummet. And I'm the guy who is usually defending Bronco.



We beat the Yewts. If not, nothing else matters.

I won't quibble over percentages... I agree with your overall thoughts on this. This year is even bigger than the Beck to Harline year... funny ...both are AT Utah
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Cougarbib
Utah won 4 in a row not too long ago. So the 4th game was big - we lost - so the game that prevented. 5th was huge. Even though this would only be a 3rd and thus mathematically smaller - this game is the biggest Utah game ever in my book.



This is the first time in my lifetime I recall worrying that U had surpassed Y and had the momentum to continue to pull away. OK Liberty Bowl way before Lacell when BYU sucked and I didn't even know BYU existed for some of you.



But this is huge. PAC 12. The Beatdown. Big 12 rejection. Jake Heaps flop. The Beatdown. Recruiting parity in Utah. Did I mention The Beatdown. Alabama. Two BCS Bowls. Jordan Wynn's hair. IDK. But this is huge. Oh - hiatus if not end to Rivalry. Little Brother. Ute envy. IDK.



Y needs to beat U. Period.



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stuckinbig10country
The only reason the Utah game is usually a bigger deal for me is I don't want to hear Ute fan all year long if they beat us (especially people in my family). If it wasn't for their fans, I could actually want to see them win every now and again. It's their fans that drive me crazy.
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mizzoucoug
I live in Texas and only spent a few years in Utah so I never cared about the game much, BUT I am putting everything on this game Sep 15th. BYU has to win this game or else we have truly become the little brother to the U. It is that big a deal.
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Gunk
mizzoucoug wrote:
I live in Texas and only spent a few years in Utah so I never cared about the game much, BUT I am putting everything on this game Sep 15th. BYU has to win this game or else we have truly become the little brother to the U. It is that big a deal.


In the same boat, except instead of Texas it's California.



I didn't even know BYU existed until my oldest sister decided to go there. BYU was a dirty word in my house until then, not because we were Utes but because my parents didn't think BYU was a legit university; just place Mormons went off to to get married.



When I arrived at BYU, thanks to my sister pioneering the way, it was really the first time I'd heard about this rivalry with the Utes. I adopted it (when in Rome) but it's not as deep for me. That said, I want to beat them more than ever this year. Send them off.



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mormonrasta
I do enjoy the rivalry with the Utes. However, if someone told me we would go 12-1 this year with our only loss to the Utes; I'd probably take it.



Don't get me wrong, 12-1 with a loss to literally any other team on our schedule would feel alot better (even Weber), but 12 wins is 12 wins.
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Mingjai
Though my family has roots in Utah, I grew up viewing the U just another win BYU's schedule. It wasn't until I got to high school that it became a rivalry again.



Still, the game means only a little more to me than a game against a ranked conference opponent--perhaps it's because I still have high national expectations for BYU.
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Cougs_Rule
Isn't this thread a little indicative of being little brother ahead of a win or loss?

I get that the game is big. But 50 % of the season? So you would rather be 6-6 and beat the Utes than 11-1 with a loss to the Utes? If fans give you crap just tell them to shove it.
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BroncoBot
dmcougar wrote:
Isn't this thread a little indicative of being little brother ahead of a win or loss?

I get that the game is big. But 50 % of the season? So you would rather be 6-6 and beat the Utes than 11-1 with a loss to the Utes? If fans give you crap just tell them to shove it.

:lol: totally agree. I don't get the animosity of some BYU fans. Are we really going to hinge the success of the season on the utah game? Remember how we used to make fun of utah fans for the way they treated the BYU game as their bowl game?????
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Cougarbib
GUNK WROTE:



"I didn't even know BYU existed until my oldest sister decided to go there. BYU was a dirty word in my house until then, not because we were Utes but because my parents didn't think BYU was a legit university; just place Mormons went off to to get married."



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At the risk of getting Hawk or others all worked up about me criticizing BYU - let me elaborate. And this is not a criticism of BYU by The Bibster - because I do not agree with these perceptions.



I heard bits of this same thing in So. Cal and Utah. But not much. Then I heard a ton of it in Hawaii. It exists in every state - my situation was different when I lived in Hawaii - so lets just say my exposure to it was magnified greatly.



I am a product of the Utah public school system - and mostly in red-neck circles - Heber City - lower Sandy ie White City. But also a smidgen of Provo High School. I knew a few BY High students when that PRIVATE high school closed and most of the students came to Provo High School. Then I heard a bit of this about Y and U. But soon I was back to Heber and was not much influenced by it. I never even gave a moment's thought about differences between public and private universities other than a prevalent view that only sissies went to BYU.



Since this is the short version of this story - lets just say - at the last minute, instead of going to the U - never even bothering to apply to Y, a miracle or two happened and I ended up at Y then U for MBA. Never appreciated Y - until much later.



I love BYU - best thing that ever accidentally happened to me. None of my kids are Utes. Two are at Y.



My first three kids were products of public schools in Utah, Illinois, and California. Still never heard much of this BYU inferior education perception.



In Hawaii, scuttlebutt about public schools got me to do the unthinkable - I sent the last two kids to private school. The youngest one got a six-year dose.



As I put every ounce of energy into trying to get my sons excited about going to BYU - well-meaning, arrogant butt-head teachers and advisors put even more energy, since I was outnumbered, into getting them excited about attending almost any Private University but BYU which was deemed lower than even some public universities like CAL, UW, UCLA, and almost anything back east. Had I sent them to Barrack Obama's high school, it would have been even worse.



Part of this perception might be due to Church College of Hawaii now being called BYU - because that was about what the misperception of BYU equated to. But some would be the same old Stanford, CAL arrogance.



It is what it is - fortunately, my sons only applied to BYU.



But that perception issue exists. Maybe this exposure thing is about more than football. But, it would at a minimum take a fine Medical School and a monumental investment in PHD programs and research to change that perception.



Regardless, the overall BYU undergraduate experience cannot be beat. And the U is at best, a poor substitute for it.



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northerncougar
KingCoug wrote:
This year it's probably around 90%.



We could win the 11 other games. But after the total debacles in the rivalry game the last two years, if we don't beat the Yewts this season, I'll be disappointed. No, not just disappointed. Disgusted. And Bronco's stock, in my book at least, will plummet. And I'm the guy who is usually defending Bronco.



We beat the Yewts. If not, nothing else matters.


Prepare yourself for a 90% disappointing season. We will lose to Utah. And BSU, ND and GT.



It is going to be a very disappointing season.
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vancouvercougar
northerncougar wrote:
This year it's probably around 90%.



We could win the 11 other games. But after the total debacles in the rivalry game the last two years, if we don't beat the Yewts this season, I'll be disappointed. No, not just disappointed. Disgusted. And Bronco's stock, in my book at least, will plummet. And I'm the guy who is usually defending Bronco.



We beat the Yewts. If not, nothing else matters.


Prepare yourself for a 90% disappointing season. We will lose to Utah. And BSU, ND and GT.



It is going to be a very disappointing season.


Hey Northern, I appreciate your vote of confidence :~( :sulk: . I prefer to maintain my membership in the church of the 13-0 season--until a loss brings me back to reality.



I really don't think we lose to all four of those teams.
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scott715
We will not go 0-4. At least 1-3 and hopefully better. If we can go 2-2 we will hit 10 wins.
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SpiffCoug
scott715 wrote:
We will not go 0-4. At least 1-3 and hopefully better. If we can go 2-2 we will hit 10 wins.

0-4 is a failed season. 1-3 is a disappointing season. 2-2 is a decent to good season. 3-1 is a great season. 4-0 is a special, special season.
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northerncougar
vancouvercougar wrote:
KingCoug wrote:
This year it's probably around 90%.



We could win the 11 other games. But after the total debacles in the rivalry game the last two years, if we don't beat the Yewts this season, I'll be disappointed. No, not just disappointed. Disgusted. And Bronco's stock, in my book at least, will plummet. And I'm the guy who is usually defending Bronco.



We beat the Yewts. If not, nothing else matters.


Prepare yourself for a 90% disappointing season. We will lose to Utah. And BSU, ND and GT.



It is going to be a very disappointing season.


Hey Northern, I appreciate your vote of confidence :~( :sulk: . I prefer to maintain my membership in the church of the 13-0 season--until a loss brings me back to reality.



I really don't think we lose to all four of those teams.


I hope you are right. My outlook on this years team sucks. I have no confidence in our offense. None.
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northerncougar
SpiffCoug wrote:
We will not go 0-4. At least 1-3 and hopefully better. If we can go 2-2 we will hit 10 wins.

0-4 is a failed season. 1-3 is a disappointing season. 2-2 is a decent to good season. 3-1 is a great season. 4-0 is a special, special season.


+1
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KingCoug
northerncougar wrote:




Prepare yourself for a 90% disappointing season. We will lose to Utah. And BSU, ND and GT.



It is going to be a very disappointing season.


I think that's overly pessimistic. To say we will go 0-4 in those games is probably as unrealistic as saying we'll go 4-0. I gotta think we'll grab at least one of them.
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Cougarbib
northerncougar wrote:
scott715 wrote:
We will not go 0-4. At least 1-3 and hopefully better. If we can go 2-2 we will hit 10 wins.

0-4 is a failed season. 1-3 is a disappointing season. 2-2 is a decent to good season. 3-1 is a great season. 4-0 is a special, special season.


+1

Disagree. Independent, objective observers expect this team to lose 4 regular season games. There is no objective argument to explain why those expectations are flawed. None. Other than entitled fans expecting their team to overachieve greatly in order to even get a passing grade. Or some belief that God will somehow lift this team beyond its ability. But such is the nature of fans, I suppose.



If this team loses 4 difficult road games in which they are underdogs - I will get over it and enjoy the season. If they underachieve - like 2010 - I won't. I do believe BYU can win any one of those games. They will probably pull an upset or two. But those go both ways.
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SpiffCoug
Going 0-4 will be underachieving.
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