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2012: The released Sched thus far...

by Mars · 5/27/2012

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Florwood
Just what we thought: Excellent September and October, lame November, overall good schedule. Tough away schedule, doable undefeated home schedule.



I. Can't. Wait!
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SpiffCoug
We go 9-0 and November will be very exciting.
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stuckinbig10country
We'll probably be 4-5 going into November, riding a 2 game losing streak. Looking at the sched, the best we could hope for at this point is 6-3 going into the bye.
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Ddawg
I'm glad we have 2 good warm up games before we play the Yewts & Boise St. away. Hopefully we stay injury free for the 3rd & 4th games. We will need "all hands on deck."
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SpiffCoug
I can't stand having all those game on national TV! Ugh!
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Mars
SpiffCoug wrote:
I can't stand having all those game on national TV! Ugh!

As of now:

3 or 4 ESPN

0 or 1 ESPN2

1 BYUtv

1 NBC



My guess for the final tally:

4 ESPN

2 ESPN2

1 ESPNU

3 BYUtv

1 Versus

1 NBC
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snoscythe
I do like that all the lame November games are away games--much easier to palate the weak ending on my couch in sweat pants with 9-layer dip and a pot of chili than it is in a blustery LES. If we are going to end every season with cupcakes, let's do it on the road.
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frdbtr
stuckinbig10country wrote:
We'll probably be 4-5 going into November, riding a 2 game losing streak. Looking at the sched, the best we could hope for at this point is 6-3 going into the bye.


I disagree. With that home sched, we go 6-0 even if we go 3-3 on the road that is 9-3 much better then the 7-5 you predict. Given the utes have a brand spanking new O-coord who has never called a game against a real defense, I give BYU a better then average shot at that game. BSU is tough but winable and with this years defense anything could happen at ND and GT. Worst case scenario is yours at 7-5 best case is undefeated. We never do worst case or best case so I will split the diference and say we go 4-2 on the road. That gives us 10-2 going into the bowl game.
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Cougarbib
Frdbtr had the correct range but 10-2 is a bit optimistic. 10-2 certainly could happen. We should be competitive in every game and would be if everyone stayed healthy and we could switch home and away on every game. If we reversed home and away we would lose at most 3 IMHO.



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scott715
So is this a tougher schedule? Using Sagrain here are tle last 3 years:



2010

UW 28

AF 37

FSU 14

NV 16

USU 114

SDSU 34

TCU 4

WY 108

UNLV 131

CSU 130

NM 170

UT 26

UTEP 121

Average 72



2011

Ole Miss 103

Texas 17

Utah 39

UCF 77

USU 80

SJSU 96

Oregon St 87

Idaho St 205

TCU 20

Idaho 141

NM St 133

Hawaii 97

Tulsa 35

Average 87



2012

WSU 83

WSU 136

Utah 39

BSU 9

HI 97

UTS 80

OSU 87

ND 26

GA Tech 56

ID 141

SJST 96

NMSU 133

Average 82 Using last years numbers
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scott715
2013 So far

TX 17

HI 97

USU 80

GA TECH 56

H 15

BSU 9

ND 26

WSU 83

Average 48
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Cougarbib
You answered your own question. Sort of. Using last year's Sagarin can be a bit misleading. But let's use them at face value since it is perhaps the best indicator we have.



2010 was pretty tough. Too tough. BYU lost 5 or 6 games Iirc.



2011 was tough enough, but easier than 2010. BYU lost 3 games.



2012 looks to not be as tough as 2010, but will be close and is clearly tougher than last year. Averages can also be misleading. Ask yourself how many games will the opponent be favored. How many other games will have a line of 3.5 or less? It really does not matter how much frosting is on your cupcakes or if TCU is number 4 or number 9. Those things affect averages, but not outcomes so much. We will beat the cakes for sure whether they are 120 or 180. We lose to TCU whether #2 or #9. I will do some counts and come back.



2013 - killer and we will be rebuilding. Look for fans to call for more coaching changes in 2013.



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Cougarbib
scott715 wrote:
So is this a tougher schedule? Using Sagrain here are tle last 3 years:



2010

UW 28 - 50/50

AF 37 - 50/50

FSU 14 - clear underdog

NV 16 - clear underdog

USU 114 - how did we lose this one so badly

SDSU 34 - 50/50

TCU 4 - overwhelming underdog

WY 108 - gimme most years

UNLV 131 - gimme

CSU 130 - gimme

NM 170 - gimme

UT 26 - slight underdog

UTEP 121 - gimme

Average 72



Experts predicted 6 sure wins. IIRC, we got 7.



We were upset by USU and did about like experts projected on the rest. You win some and lose some vs roughly even opponents. We lost to the favored teams. Pretty much like every season.



2011

Ole Miss 103 - should not have been as close as it was.

Texas 17 - clear underdogs - Texas almost gave it away, though.

Utah 39 - 50/50

UCF 77 - favored. Should not have been so close.

USU 80 - favored. How did they nearly beat us again. RN saved program.

SJSU 96 - cupcake.

Oregon St 87 - clear favorite.

Idaho St 205 - cupcake.

TCU 20 - overwhelming underdog. And, yet, we had a shot. Dang punter.

Idaho 141 - cake.

NM St 133 - cake.

Hawaii 97 - clear favorite.

Tulsa 35 - 50/50. Nice win.

Average 87 - Experts predicted 9 sure wins. We got 10.



2012

WSU 83 - favorites

WSU 136 - cake

Utah 39 - slight dogs on the road.

BSU 9 - underdogs. Especially on road.

HI 97 - favorites.

UTS 80 - favorites.

OSU 87 - favorites.

ND 26 - clear underdogs - especially on the road.

GA Tech 56 - underdogs on the road.

ID 141 - cake.

SJST 96 - cake.

NMSU 133 - cake.



Bowl Game 50/50 likely.



Experts predict 5 sure wins and 7 likely wins and some close games. How many wins will we get?

Average 82 Using last years numbers


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Cougarbib
scott715 wrote:
So is this a tougher schedule? Using Sagrain here are tle last 3 years:



2010

UW 28 - 50/50

AF 37 - 50/50

FSU 14 - clear underdog

NV 16 - clear underdog

USU 114 - how did we lose this one so badly

SDSU 34 - 50/50

TCU 4 - overwhelming underdog

WY 108 - gimme most years

UNLV 131 - gimme

CSU 130 - gimme

NM 170 - gimme

UT 26 - slight underdog

UTEP 121 - gimme

Average 72



Experts predicted 6 sure wins. IIRC, we got 7.



We were upset by USU and did about like experts projected on the rest. You win some and lose some vs roughly even opponents. We lost to the favored teams. Pretty much like every season.



2011

Ole Miss 103 - should not have been as close as it was.

Texas 17 - clear underdogs - Texas almost gave it away, though.

Utah 39 - 50/50

UCF 77 - favored. Should not have been so close.

USU 80 - favored. How did they nearly beat us again. RN saved program.

SJSU 96 - cupcake.

Oregon St 87 - clear favorite.

Idaho St 205 - cupcake.

TCU 20 - overwhelming underdog. And, yet, we had a shot. Dang punter.

Idaho 141 - cake.

NM St 133 - cake.

Hawaii 97 - clear favorite.

Tulsa 35 - 50/50. Nice win.

Average 87 - Experts predicted 9 sure wins. We got 10.



2012

WSU 83 - favorites

WSU 136 - cake

Utah 39 - slight dogs on the road.

BSU 9 - underdogs. Especially on road.

HI 97 - favorites.

UTS 80 - favorites.

OSU 87 - favorites.

ND 26 - clear underdogs - especially on the road.

GA Tech 56 - underdogs on the road.

ID 141 - cake.

SJST 96 - cake.

NMSU 133 - cake.



Bowl Game 50/50 likely.



Experts predict 5 sure wins and 7 likely wins and some close games. How many wins will we get?

Average 82 Using last years numbers


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scott715
I was trying to get to SOS not wins. The first two years of indy were hurt by the WAC games but we had to have those to make it work. In the 3rd year the schedule looks really good. So I think the indy is not hurting our schedule even though a lot of folks have been crying about it.
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Cougarbib
scott715 wrote:
I was trying to get to SOS not wins. The first two years of indy were hurt by the WAC games but we had to have those to make it work. In the 3rd year the schedule looks really good. So I think the indy is not hurting our schedule even though a lot of folks have been crying about it.


If BYU wants to fix SOS it should:



Get more home games, stay in the region, and rarely leave the state so we can take some frosting off the cupcakes and play some 80 and 90 saggys in place of the 120 saggys.



Trying to raise SOS by playing top 20 teams on the road is unwise and will backfire badly.



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jonnylingo
stuckinbig10country wrote:
We'll probably be 4-5 going into November, riding a 2 game losing streak. Looking at the sched, the best we could hope for at this point is 6-3 going into the bye.


If this happens byu football will be in trouble. that will seriously hurt recruiting. we need to win this year to keep thing going.
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KingCoug
The opponents of our opponents, and the scheduling, could always be a factor for better or worse...







1. Washington State



- Nobody (opening game)

- Eastern Washington after BYU



2. Weber State



- @ Fresno State before BYU

- McNeese State after BYU



3. @ Utah



- Utah State before BYU

- Arizona State after BYU



4. @ Boise State



- Miami (OH) before BYU

-@ New Mexico after BYU



5. Hawaii



- Nevada before BYU

- @ San Diego State after BYU



6. Utah State



- UNLV before BYU

- @ San Jose State after BYU



7. Oregon State



- Washington State before BYU

- Utah after BYU



8. @ Notre Dame



- Stanford before BYU

- @ Oklahoma after BYU



9. @ Georgia Tech



- Boston College before BYU

- @ Maryland after BYU



10. Idaho



- San Jose State before BYU

- UTSA after BYU



11. @ San Jose State



- @ New Mexico State before BYU

- Louisiana Tech after BYU



12. @ New Mexico State



- Bye week before BYU

- @ Texas State after BYU
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