I hate this article!

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Thanks for nothing! Where was this desire and effort the last three years?!

When someone says "If I'd only have known over the last 4 years what I've learned in the last 3 months", then that makes me wonder about BYU's staff and what they're not teaching these kids...Sounds like his dedication was there but the education and knowledge at BYU wasn't. But I hope it's something else.

Two interesting quotes from the article shed light on the pros and cons with BYU S&C and position coaches:



1. "My problem at BYU was that I was overweight...I never worked with a nutritionist and I didn't know how to eat right."



2. "BYU did a great job of getting me ready (for the NFL), especially the mental part of the game."

I thought BYU had a nutritionist. I don't buy that excuse. He knew he was overweight, but didn't do anything to fix it? He just said oh well, I don't have any help?



Sorry, but there are nutritionists available at BYU. Brown was overweight because he wanted to be and had no reason not to be.

The big question for me is will someone(s) on the coaching staff do this for the linemen this year. How different would last season have been with linemen that were leaner meaner and more athletic? How much different will this season be if they do this? Do we need 350 pounders?

SpiffCoug wrote:
I thought BYU had a nutritionist. I don't buy that excuse. He knew he was overweight, but didn't do anything to fix it? He just said oh well, I don't have any help?



Sorry, but there are nutritionists available at BYU. Brown was overweight because he wanted to be and had no reason not to be.

Bingo. My wife had a nutritionist when she was an athlete at BYU. Brown certainly had at least one. He just didn't follow what was put in front of him. Instead, he crammed for the NFL like it was finals week.



What this means for BYU coaching is they need to communicate better with their athletes and set up some incentives for sticking to their diet programs. My guess is Brown probably had a conversation or two every now and then with a nutritionist. Brown probably didn't give it much ear at the time as he thought he had 4 years to do it, liked eating Snickers bars, and didn't think it was that big of a deal. Coaches and nutritionists need to break it down better for these players.

What do you expect a guy to say when he's posturing for a UFA contract? "My slightly above-average collegiate career represents the ceiling of my potential. My coaches were brilliant and taught me everything and helped me reach my zenith in 2012. Thanks to them, I do not think I can ever improve."



He's not knocking BYU, he's selling himself. And he's got to explain why he has upside.



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snoscythe wrote:
What do you expect a guy to say when he's posturing for a UFA contract? "My slightly above-average collegiate career represents the ceiling of my potential. My coaches were brilliant and taught me everything and helped me reach my zenith in 2012. Thanks to them, I do not think I can ever improve."



He's not knocking BYU, he's selling himself. And he's got to explain why he has upside.



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In other words...he's cramming.

On the upside I work at Lehi Jr. High....maybe I can pass along some of the sentiments on the board if I see Mr. Brown roaming the halls.

nuk13 wrote:
The big question for me is will someone(s) on the coaching staff do this for the linemen this year. How different would last season have been with linemen that were leaner meaner and more athletic? How much different will this season be if they do this? Do we need 350 pounders?

I wish they were only 350 pounders... Brown was pushing 400 in his senior year. There's no way he only dropped 38 lbs to get to 315. He dropped 60-7o to get there.



(This is before the season even started, and all the Cougartails and easy runthrough practices. There is no way this guy is 340.)



Sophomore season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iHstT-CJE8



Senior Season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNEjzEAjE4U



If he is 340 in the first, and 340 in the second... that means he didn't gain a pound during his tenure at BYU... :roll:



(p.s. - he's not 340 in either... He is 350 or so in the first, and 370-ish in the second. )

SpiffCoug wrote:
I thought BYU had a nutritionist. I don't buy that excuse. He knew he was overweight, but didn't do anything to fix it? He just said oh well, I don't have any help?



Sorry, but there are nutritionists available at BYU. Brown was overweight because he wanted to be and had no reason not to be.

That's what I think too. Yet, I don't know what he was being told by the coaching staff that he didn't appear to have the maturity to understand the potential he had on the field to make this opportunity happen. I don't know, but it sounds from what Doman has said, that the days of lineman like Brown are going to disappear. We'll see. It sounded to me like the right direct to go.

I actually spoke with a former player today. He said they didn't have a trainer. He said that BYU does great at on-the-field coaching, but there was room for improvement off-the-field.

SpiffCoug wrote:
I actually spoke with a former player today. He said they didn't have a trainer. He said that BYU does great at on-the-field coaching, but there was room for improvement off-the-field.

Silly...off the field time is supposed to be spent working on your relationship with God, spending time with family, school work, social time, a job if you have one, and then football. Who's got time for extra training...



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I never worked with a nutritionist and I didn't know how to eat right

Give me a break, you don't need a professional nutritionist to avoid weighing 400 lbs. Limit sugar, eat your vegetables and control your portion sizes. That whole paragraph has nothing to do with "selling yourself" to NFL teams. It just makes it sound like he was undisciplined and lazy.

Mars wrote:


Honestly, there's no way a college football player could eat right and train hard during the summer when they don't have classes. That's impossible. It's equally impossible for coaches to hold players account for how they train, how they eat, and what physical condition they are in, nor could they ever follow up with such during the course of 48+ months.



And who BYU hires to do strength & conditioning and nutrition is not really under BYU's control, and neither is how good they are at their job or how they go about doing it, either what they do or how often it is done. It is also not reasonable for employees to be accountable to anyone about their job, as they could not be fired once they are hired anyways.



The best BYU can ever do is hope that individuals have a strong work ethic and the resources and the desire to do everything on their own, without help or motivation. Each player should be their own NFL coach. That's what adults do, teach themselves how to be experts and do so perfectly, without anyone else required.

Spot on Mars. Who are we to assume that people should be accountable for their job performance? It isn't like job execution is a big thing to the football and/or coaches...







And then, when we get the player that actually wants to train and workout during the summer, we make fun of him and alienate him from the team for hiring a personal trainer and holding his own workouts... How dare he not want to be a fat waste of space along with the rest of the do-nothing and say everything offensive line!!!



It's time for weights training ...... We are seeing how many cougar tails we can lift up to our fat faces!!! ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.





(TIC)

What if we actually had a program where the players worked out, followed well implemented diet and exercise programs, and practiced together, instead of some of them having fat bellies making them less effective and some of them having fat egos requiring them to work out alone.



Gee, we might just get a team out of it come the fall.

I need to correct my post. I meant to say, the former play said they didn't have a full-time nutritionist.

BlueIsBetter wrote:
It's time for weights training ...... We are seeing how many cougar tails we can lift up to our fat faces!!! ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.





(TIC)

Have you seen how big those Cougar Tails are?! I know after I pound one by myself, I don't think I'd be able to do anything else for a few hours. That's no different than working out hard and not being able to do anything else for few hours afterwards, right?





:whistle:

SpiffCoug wrote:

It's time for weights training ...... We are seeing how many cougar tails we can lift up to our fat faces!!! ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.





(TIC)

Have you seen how big those Cougar Tails are?! I know after I pound one by myself, I don't think I'd be able to do anything else for a few hours. That's no different than working out hard and not being able to do anything else for few hours afterwards, right?





:whistle:

I see absolutely no difference in the two. And you are now my full time nutritionist. I've been saying for years that it takes just as much effort and planning to be out of shape as it does to be in good health ;)



Well played on the fat bellied and fat ego'd comment.