TCU Football Players Go Down in Drug Sting

Can't believe this wasn't already on here. Four TCU players were kicked off the team after being caught dealing drugs.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/15/us-crime-drugs-tcu-idUSTRE81E20Q20120215" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

82 players failed a surprise drug test on Feb 1.



http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/02/15/3736441/many-current-tcu-students-arrested.html#my-headlines-default" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



This link has been shared on the tweets on the side.



I wonder what, if any punishment there will be for those players. If they all get kicked off the team, then TCU now has a lot of scolarships open, and they will be the bottom of the Big 12. I have a feeling that only those that were arrested will be off the team though.

StatsCougar wrote:
82 players failed a surprise drug test on Feb 1.



http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/02/15/3736441/many-current-tcu-students-arrested.html#my-headlines-default" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



This link has been shared on the tweets on the side.



I wonder what, if any punishment there will be for those players. If they all get kicked off the team, then TCU now has a lot of scolarships open, and they will be the bottom of the Big 12. I have a feeling that only those that were arrested will be off the team though.

I'm interested to see what happens as a result of the drug test. 82 players! That's basically the whole team. Now that the test is out publically, Paterson will have to do something or look like a fool.

MY guess is that TCU will boot the 4 off the team, then privately deal with the other 82, perhaps suspend them for a game or portions of games. Obviously, will have to stagger it. But they will not publically out any of the 82 due to privacy laws, similar to how BYU handles things.



Not our our schedule anytime soon, so does not affect BYU though.

Timing is everything. This is bad timing for us. Too bad this did not happen last fall - before they kicked our butts and before they got what we hoped would be our BIG XII invite. I am a bit shocked - until I recall what their starting QB looked like. Gangsta is apparently alive and well and if all of this is true - their pouty, whiny coach will be doin damage control big-time.



Too bad, I liked what TCU had accomplished for the little guys.



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The other 82 will likely be suspended for a single voluntary summer workout, rejoin the team as normal in the fall and have no further repercussions.

hawkwing wrote:
The other 82 will likely be suspended for a single voluntary summer workout, rejoin the team as normal in the fall and have no further repercussions.

Maybe. But this may be too big to sweep. The Patterson quote that some days you really want to be a head coach - today isn't one of those and the one about shock moving to hurt moving to being mad was telling.



But you are right - is he willing to flush the toilet and start over and mail in a decade of rebuilding to make a statement - he will gain my respect but lose his job and perhaps sink his career if he does.



Career may dip a little anyway.



He must have really been in the dark to order the drug test. I bet he was expecting a much cleaner result that he could show the recruit that gave rampant drug use as the reason he did not sign.



All of this could help BYU recruiting. They took one of our guys from the 2010 class iirc. Parents and players who want a good environment may reflect that TCU is probably far from the only school to have pervasive drug and alcohol problems.



Maybe some will transfer out of this and other party schools.



I am still shocked - TCU and Party School were not associated in my mind prior to this. Miami - yes. TCU - no.



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They will fit right in the Big12. Maybe the Big12 should kick them out, replace us with them and the football schedules. Then BigEast can pick them up the year after. I wonder what Big12 has to say on this?

hawkwing wrote:
The other 82 will likely be suspended for a single voluntary summer workout, rejoin the team as normal in the fall and have no further repercussions.

Ah they'll probably only have them cinch up their athletic supporters a notch as a self-castigating punishment.

I'm not getting my hopes up.



They will still be fast, athletic, and stupid. They should do very well this year.



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One issue I have being a Buckeye fan is that OSU received substantial penalties for players trading signatures for tats. How can having players making money selling drugs not be worse and cause them to likewise receive NCAA punishments and be banned from any post season bowl games?



I'm not saying OSU didn't deserve their punishment whatsoever, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander and bringing in money for selling illegal drugs should be punishable to the program. The only difference I can see is that the OSU players were receiving benefit because they were OSU athletes, whereas the TCU 4 that were selling drugs were doing so like the other students caught at TCU and their transactions had nothing to do with their being athletes. If they sold to other FB players, now that is something even more grave. But what they did was far more grave in the spectrum of right and wrong. Punish their program.

Receiving benefits. Now if TCU gave them the drugs. . . Anyways drugs is a criminal matter not NCAA.

When I read national coverage of this on ESPN and CBS Sportsline yesterday, not a hint of 80 failing a drug test. Not a hint. Not saying it did not happen, but even the quotes linked in this thread are from arrested players - one speculating to an undercover officer about how many might be caught and the other saying to an undercover officer that 80 were caught. How would they know the real numbers unless there was a team announcement.



Anyway - that part needs to be factually confirmed.



The drug dealing by 4 players and a dozen other students - all arrested - all suspended and to be expelled if convicted - fully confirmed.



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I wondered that too after reading about the 82. Yahoo's article today mentions the source was one of the players caught.



http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news;_ylt=AscIjS5NW3W.wmUjUNP83RkcvrYF?slug=ap-tcu-drugarrests

Horn and Johnson scoffed at the Feb. 1 team drug test ordered by Patterson, police said. Brock allegedly told an undercover officer that he failed the surprise test “for sure,” but that it wouldn’t be a problem because there “would be about 60 people screwed.”



Horn had looked through the football roster and “said there were only 20 people that would pass the test on the team,” Brock said, according to the warrant.



And six days after the test, Johnson allegedly sold an officer $300 worth of marijuana. Asked about the test, he said: “What can they do, 82 people failed it.”



In response to that allegation, TCU cornerback Kolby Griffin posted a tweet on his personal account Wednesday that read, “This rumor about 82 of us failing a drug test is false completely false.”



TCU released a statement late Wednesday afternoon that said the school tests its athletes for drug use “on a regular basis.”



“The comments about failed drug tests made by the separated players in affidavits cannot be verified simply because they were made in the context of a drug buy,” the school said. Patterson declined to answer questions beyond his prepared statement.

EM_Puma wrote:
One issue I have being a Buckeye fan is that OSU received substantial penalties for players trading signatures for tats. How can having players making money selling drugs not be worse and cause them to likewise receive NCAA punishments and be banned from any post season bowl games?



I'm not saying OSU didn't deserve their punishment whatsoever, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander and bringing in money for selling illegal drugs should be punishable to the program. The only difference I can see is that the OSU players were receiving benefit because they were OSU athletes, whereas the TCU 4 that were selling drugs were doing so like the other students caught at TCU and their transactions had nothing to do with their being athletes. If they sold to other FB players, now that is something even more grave. But what they did was far more grave in the spectrum of right and wrong. Punish their program.

The difference is they are using the school to make money or get gifts. these guys were straight up just selling drugs. being football players for tcu didnt help them do that. it is not as related to the school as getting free stuff for your signature.



i dont think the ncaa should even get involved in the tcu case unless they were aware of it and didn't do anythign about it.

billbillbillbill wrote:
I wondered that too after reading about the 82. Yahoo's article today mentions the source was one of the players caught.



http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news;_ylt=AscIjS5NW3W.wmUjUNP83RkcvrYF?slug=ap-tcu-drugarrests

Horn and Johnson scoffed at the Feb. 1 team drug test ordered by Patterson, police said. Brock allegedly told an undercover officer that he failed the surprise test “for sure,” but that it wouldn’t be a problem because there “would be about 60 people screwed.”



Horn had looked through the football roster and “said there were only 20 people that would pass the test on the team,” Brock said, according to the warrant.



And six days after the test, Johnson allegedly sold an officer $300 worth of marijuana. Asked about the test, he said: “What can they do, 82 people failed it.”



In response to that allegation, TCU cornerback Kolby Griffin posted a tweet on his personal account Wednesday that read, “This rumor about 82 of us failing a drug test is false completely false.”



TCU released a statement late Wednesday afternoon that said the school tests its athletes for drug use “on a regular basis.”



“The comments about failed drug tests made by the separated players in affidavits cannot be verified simply because they were made in the context of a drug buy,” the school said. Patterson declined to answer questions beyond his prepared statement.

I personally don't believe the 82 number.

You think it was higher?

EM_Puma wrote:
One issue I have being a Buckeye fan is that OSU received substantial penalties for players trading signatures for tats. How can having players making money selling drugs not be worse and cause them to likewise receive NCAA punishments and be banned from any post season bowl games?



I'm not saying OSU didn't deserve their punishment whatsoever, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander and bringing in money for selling illegal drugs should be punishable to the program. The only difference I can see is that the OSU players were receiving benefit because they were OSU athletes, whereas the TCU 4 that were selling drugs were doing so like the other students caught at TCU and their transactions had nothing to do with their being athletes. If they sold to other FB players, now that is something even more grave. But what they did was far more grave in the spectrum of right and wrong. Punish their program.

Justice is usually not fair and equitable. If they had been caught up at the U they would have bronze statues made of them and would be celebrated for their efforts at going the extra mile to earn a little income as a struggling athlete.

I the OSU athletes were trading signatures and memorabelia for more than just tattoos. The reason that tattoo parlor was being investigated by the feds was because it was part of a drug ring.

SpiffCoug wrote:
I the OSU athletes were trading signatures and memorabelia for more than just tattoos. The reason that tattoo parlor was being investigated by the feds was because it was part of a drug ring.

Whereas here we have, in fact, a drug ring.



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