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Got speed

by byucougar1 · 2/8/2012

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byucougar1
Interesting fact tidbit from TBS about some of the results coming from offseason workouts:





“Flying Sprints”



The team is currently working out in the weight room and doing conditioning drills. Sources told Total Blue Sports that in a timed “flying sprints” event involving wide receivers, running backs and defensive backs, Adam Hine came in first place. The top five times are as follows:



Adam Hine: 1.94

Cody Hoffman: 1.95

Taysom Hill: 1.96

Preston Hadley: 1.99

Mike Edmunds: 2.00



First - Hine has some serious speed and might be the breakaway back we have been needing since Ronny Jenkins and Luke Staley.



Second: Taysom Hill can fly for a QB. I believe he is going to be pushing Lark for backup with his talent. Will be hard to keep him off the field.



Third, not much has been said about Hoffman's speed but his KO return average attests to that. Look for him to have a breakout year as he was Riley's favorite target.



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jonnylingo
Riley will certainly be injured at least part of the season. i sure hope lark or munns are ready so coaches don't feel pressure to play hill.
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BBP
Looks like a lot of DBs are going to be watching Adam's Hine dissappearing into the endzone.
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tmoney35
Wow, I'm surprised to see Cody up so high. I guess I shouldn't be, since he's been our KR, but he just doesn't look that fast on the field
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byucougar1
He and Josh Weeks are of the same build with long legs and a fluid, effortless stride that covers lots of ground rather quickly.



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BBP
byucougar1 wrote:
He and Josh Weeks are of the same build with long legs and a fluid, effortless stride that covers lots of ground rather quickly.



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That fluid stride is what makes him look like he isn't moving fast.
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jvquarterback
Apo? Isn't he supposed to be the fastest guy on the team? And where are the dbs?



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mizzoucoug
So does Hine have breakaway speed? That's what we're really missing. Plenty of guys have a quick burst but can't get past safeties. This is the type of athlete that we have never had at BYU--even Jenkins had a hard time with his speed.



@JV--Apo is pretty slow actually if you haven't noticed by now.
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byucougar1
When you think about our offense this year, on paper it looks really impressive.



QB - Riley/Lark

FB - Iona Pritchard/Mendenhall

RB - Alisa/Juice/Hine (3 headed attack)

OL - R. Matthews, H. Reynolds, C -????, B. Brown, B. Hansen

TE - Hoyt, Wilson

FTE - Matthews x 2

WR - Hoffman, Apo, Thompson, Houk

SB - Falslev, D. Collie



If our line can run and pass block effectively, we should have a very potent scoring machine. I think we average more points, total yardage then when Riley took over as the starting QB.
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frdbtr
So what is a "flying sprint" and what do those numbers mean? Obviously they look really low but what do they represent?
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byucougar1
I understand that "Flying Sprint"is a track term and is the maximum running speed.
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Cougarbib
byucougar1 wrote:
I understand that "Flying Sprint"is a track term and is the maximum running speed.




OK but comparing to others on a notoriously slow team is less informative than if someone could quote times of some people from other teams known to be blazers.
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byucougar1
From CB post: "Top speed training is best achieved through what is called 'Flying Sprints.' Flying sprints require a roughly 30 yard run up in which the athlete gradually builds up speed until a maximum effort sprint of anywhere between 10 to 40 yards. So if the maximum effort sprint lasts for 20 yards, this would be called a flying 20. Remember each sprint requires full recovery in between repetitions."
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SpiffCoug
Weeks is a straight line runner. Watch his highlights. He's fast, but only in a straight line. I think he'll be good, but I don't think he's in the Hoffman/Apo mold of receiver. More of a Todd Watkins type.
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frdbtr
So what does the time represent, is that saying that Hine runs 20 yards in 1.9 seconds at top speed? Also like bib said, what would this number mean compared to other teams that have speedy guys. I don't like it when the press starts bragging about things with no explanation. We all sit here and say "Wow, timo hine ran a 1.9 flying sprint" like it is impressive. i want to know what the numbers mean. I have never heard of a flying sprint and I don't even know if 1.9 is good.
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byucougar1
Flying sprints are most commonly observed by males watching females during Black Friday sales throughout malls around the country. In fact, my wife can go from 0-60 in a couple of seconds if she likes the shoes that are deeply discounted. Safety tip - don't get in the way of a frantic shopper going for the last item on the shelf unless you can perform a flying spring to escape.



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byucougar1
From higher-faster-sports.com:



"For Football Players



Another useful observation for football players (horizontal speed) is to simply compare the 10 yard dash to the 40 yard dash. The quad dominant (calves, quads) individual often tends to have a start that is much better than his top speed. The posterior chain (hips/hamstring) dominant individual is exactly opposite.



A good rule of thumb is the 40 yard dash should be 3.0 seconds or less faster than the 10 yd. dash. Thus, someone running a 1.5 10 yard dash should be running a 4.5 or better 40 yds. Anything more than a 3.0 second difference indicates a need for more speed work or posterior chain strengthening, horizontal plyo variations (bounding), or horizontal towing (sled sprints and sled marches). Guys with less than a 3.0 second difference typically don't need to do anything special except get stronger (and often bigger). They tend to easily convert strength gains into speed.



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tmoney35
frdbtr wrote:
So what does the time represent, is that saying that Hine runs 20 yards in 1.9 seconds at top speed? Also like bib said, what would this number mean compared to other teams that have speedy guys. I don't like it when the press starts bragging about things with no explanation. We all sit here and say "Wow, timo hine ran a 1.9 flying sprint" like it is impressive. i want to know what the numbers mean. I have never heard of a flying sprint and I don't even know if 1.9 is good.


That problem is that the report doesn't say how long the sprint was, and it's not some standardized race that you can compare times to players of other schools. Basically, the numbers are useless outside of seeing who on our team has the fastest top speed.
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