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Dcr36There's been a lot of doomsaying about half-empty stadiums if BYU fails to bring big names into LES, either by way of better scheduling or conference invite. I thought I'd see if there's any empirical truth to those claims. I decided to mainly look at the recent bad years. 2006-2009 was pretty consistent in terms of full or mostly full stadiums.
I've graded the opponents for reference.
A = any BCS team with some semblance of history, non-BCS teams that finished highly ranked, notable rivals (although I didn't include Utah, that game will always be well attended)
B = decent non-AQs, any MWC team that finished with 7+ wins
C = bad FBS non-AQ teams
D = any FCS team
2002
Syracuse (A) 65,612
Hawaii (A) 63,085
UNLV (C) 62,543
SDSU (C) 59,362
Wyo. (C) 61,689
UNM (B) 60,764
2003
Georgia Tech (A) 61,930
Stanford (A) 61,446
AF (B) 62,210
CSU (B) 46,778
Boise State (A) 46,778
2004
Notre Dame (A) 65,251
USC (A) 63,467
UNLV (C) N/A (couldn't find the number anywhere)
Wyoming (C) 58,737
SDSU (C) 53,435
UNM (B) N/A (ditto)
2005
BC (A) 58,108
E. Illinois (D) 52,630
TCU (A) 58,320
Wyom. (C) 58,165
AF (C) 57,687
2010
Washington (A) 63,771
Nevada (A) 61,471
SDSU (B) 62,176
Wyoming (C) 60,505
UNLV (C) 61,283
UNM (C) 59,077
Bad teams on good years: BYU played 2 FCS teams in 2006-2009. They were:
2007 E. Wash. 64,522
2008 N. Iowa 64,108
NIU had the benefit of being the season opener. EWU was mid-season.
Observations -
- Most of BYU's A-graded match-ups came early in the season, which generally assures better attendance.
- However, even those can be hampered by bad seasons - Bronco could only draw 58,000 to his career opener vs. an AQ foe, probably attributable to Crowton's last 3 seasons.
- The only time BYU has had a late-season matchup with a truly great team on a bad year is 2003 BSU, which only drew 46,000 people. That number looks strange to me, especially since it's identical to the game before, but cougarstats.com verified it. For the record, it was a very cold, snowy day.
- Finally, this doesn't consider a lot of factors like weather and time that do affect attendance - Both 2010 UNLV and 2010 UNM were bad teams being played late-season, but one was a day game and the other was played on a particularly cold evening, and you have an attendance difference of over 2,000.
Conclusion: People will go to see BYU play bad teams if BYU is playing well. People will not go to see BYU play good teams if BYU is playing poorly. I think once you get out of a very small group of schools (rivals, geographically or culturally relevant teams like USC or Hawaii, or storied programs like ND or Ohio State) people aren't going to pay to watch BYU get rolled out.
I've graded the opponents for reference.
A = any BCS team with some semblance of history, non-BCS teams that finished highly ranked, notable rivals (although I didn't include Utah, that game will always be well attended)
B = decent non-AQs, any MWC team that finished with 7+ wins
C = bad FBS non-AQ teams
D = any FCS team
2002
Syracuse (A) 65,612
Hawaii (A) 63,085
UNLV (C) 62,543
SDSU (C) 59,362
Wyo. (C) 61,689
UNM (B) 60,764
2003
Georgia Tech (A) 61,930
Stanford (A) 61,446
AF (B) 62,210
CSU (B) 46,778
Boise State (A) 46,778
2004
Notre Dame (A) 65,251
USC (A) 63,467
UNLV (C) N/A (couldn't find the number anywhere)
Wyoming (C) 58,737
SDSU (C) 53,435
UNM (B) N/A (ditto)
2005
BC (A) 58,108
E. Illinois (D) 52,630
TCU (A) 58,320
Wyom. (C) 58,165
AF (C) 57,687
2010
Washington (A) 63,771
Nevada (A) 61,471
SDSU (B) 62,176
Wyoming (C) 60,505
UNLV (C) 61,283
UNM (C) 59,077
Bad teams on good years: BYU played 2 FCS teams in 2006-2009. They were:
2007 E. Wash. 64,522
2008 N. Iowa 64,108
NIU had the benefit of being the season opener. EWU was mid-season.
Observations -
- Most of BYU's A-graded match-ups came early in the season, which generally assures better attendance.
- However, even those can be hampered by bad seasons - Bronco could only draw 58,000 to his career opener vs. an AQ foe, probably attributable to Crowton's last 3 seasons.
- The only time BYU has had a late-season matchup with a truly great team on a bad year is 2003 BSU, which only drew 46,000 people. That number looks strange to me, especially since it's identical to the game before, but cougarstats.com verified it. For the record, it was a very cold, snowy day.
- Finally, this doesn't consider a lot of factors like weather and time that do affect attendance - Both 2010 UNLV and 2010 UNM were bad teams being played late-season, but one was a day game and the other was played on a particularly cold evening, and you have an attendance difference of over 2,000.
Conclusion: People will go to see BYU play bad teams if BYU is playing well. People will not go to see BYU play good teams if BYU is playing poorly. I think once you get out of a very small group of schools (rivals, geographically or culturally relevant teams like USC or Hawaii, or storied programs like ND or Ohio State) people aren't going to pay to watch BYU get rolled out.

