Vote on the Last 6 Regular Season Games Record

Just curious to see what the thought trend is for BYUs last 6 games. I predict BYU wins 4 of 6, losing to TCU and Hawaii. But if we lose to Oregeon State, I think we find a way to beat Hawaii. I did not put in the 0-6 choice because that would just be sick and wrong.



Also, please name the teams you think we will lose to or beat.

We win them all baby!!

Unless our QB play improves we lose to Oregon State and we get embarrassed by TCU.

Do we need to resurrect the "Church of the Rest of the Season Going Undefeated"? Do I hear and AMEN brethren?

:crazy: 8) :lol:

Wickchad84087 wrote:
Unless our QB play improves we lose to Oregon State and we get embarrassed by TCU.

Oregon State is pure awful this year. Only win was AZ, who is also pure awful. If they abandon the run quickly when it gets stuffed, then they'll abandon it early, letting our linemen pin their ears back and just pass rush. Barring turnovers, they'll be held under 20 points.



Our offense may have been pure awful for the first few games, but I think we're beyond that point. Our defense has never been pure awful. I'm not scared about this game.



TCU I am scared about. My hope is that Doman has had this one circled all offseason, and has spent all his time learning about how to score on TCU, and that that is the primary reason the offense hasn't gotten on track yet. I'm not terribly confident that that's what has happened or that it will be successful. I'm also worried about the trip to Hawaii - historically, it has not been good for us even with good teams and good QB play. Those two are my worries - but not OSU. Riley's gonna post numbers worthy of any BYU QB this week. Mark it down.

redneckjedi wrote:

Riley's gonna post numbers worthy of any BYU QB this week. Mark it down.

I like your optimism for this week's game. Your prediction is duly noted and marked down.

redneckjedi wrote:

Unless our QB play improves we lose to Oregon State and we get embarrassed by TCU.

Oregon State is pure awful this year. Only win was AZ, who is also pure awful. If they abandon the run quickly when it gets stuffed, then they'll abandon it early, letting our linemen pin their ears back and just pass rush. Barring turnovers, they'll be held under 20 points.



Our offense may have been pure awful for the first few games, but I think we're beyond that point. Our defense has never been pure awful. I'm not scared about this game.



TCU I am scared about. My hope is that Doman has had this one circled all offseason, and has spent all his time learning about how to score on TCU, and that that is the primary reason the offense hasn't gotten on track yet. I'm not terribly confident that that's what has happened or that it will be successful. I'm also worried about the trip to Hawaii - historically, it has not been good for us even with good teams and good QB play. Those two are my worries - but not OSU. Riley's gonna post numbers worthy of any BYU QB this week. Mark it down.

OSU defense is better than SJSU and USU. I think they are capable of controlling Riley's running. If he isn't able to be effective passing the ball we are in trouble. Also if we pull an ineffective Riley in the 3rd quarter, is Heaps capable of a USU type comeback? I doubt it. I don't think OSU can score more than 20 on us. The question is without the ability to scramble can we score more than 20? That is my fear. If Nelson proves he is more than a run first quarterback and can move the offense all game (no 3rd quarter with 0 completions) we will be alright.

Stats fail.



San Jose pre-BYU was allowing a PER of 135.12. Post BYU it's 138.53

Oregon St's defensive PER is 154.43 good for 113th.



I'll be very surprised if Riley is ineffective in the passing game. If he is struggling, you let him work through it. He's shown he can get it done. He deserves a few halves to figure things out - at a minimum.



No, at this point in time, I don't think Heaps is capable of a USU-type comeback, nor do I think one will be necessary this week.

I think we need to evaluate Oregon State pre and post QB change, because they are a different ream. The new QB has 2 starts (ASU/UA) and is 1-1, and gave Arizona State a better game than Utah did, and beat Arizona. Assuming we will see the same team that lost early to FCS is not accurate. They are much better right now. Plus, they throw it fairly well. Will be a tight game.

I was overly optimistic. I keep forgetting how badly we've been playing.

I think we win either OSU or TCU. We're hungry enough to win one, we're not consistent enough to win both.

SpiffCoug wrote:
Stats fail.



San Jose pre-BYU was allowing a PER of 135.12. Post BYU it's 138.53

Oregon St's defensive PER is 154.43 good for 113th.



I'll be very surprised if Riley is ineffective in the passing game. If he is struggling, you let him work through it. He's shown he can get it done. He deserves a few halves to figure things out - at a minimum.



No, at this point in time, I don't think Heaps is capable of a USU-type comeback, nor do I think one will be necessary this week.

Stats don't matter when a team is able to shut down your QB's ability to scramble with their front four. Yes there is a difference between a mediocre Pac 12 team's d-line and two Wac teams' d-lines. Don't forget that OSU has been a very good team over the past five years and its not like they have replaced their entire defense with scrubs this year.



It doesn't matter that OSU's only win was against UA who hasn't won anything either. (we probably have the same record as UA right now if we played their schedule.) Remember a couple years back when the apple cup featured a winless UW against a winless WSU? Don't forget that we played that winless UW and only beat them by one point by blocking an extra point.

Wickchad84087 wrote:

Stats fail.



San Jose pre-BYU was allowing a PER of 135.12. Post BYU it's 138.53

Oregon St's defensive PER is 154.43 good for 113th.



I'll be very surprised if Riley is ineffective in the passing game. If he is struggling, you let him work through it. He's shown he can get it done. He deserves a few halves to figure things out - at a minimum.



No, at this point in time, I don't think Heaps is capable of a USU-type comeback, nor do I think one will be necessary this week.

Stats don't matter when a team is able to shut down your QB's ability to scramble with their front four. Yes there is a difference between a mediocre Pac 12 team's d-line and two Wac teams' d-lines. Don't forget that OSU has been a very good team over the past five years and its not like they have replaced their entire defense with scrubs this year.



It doesn't matter that OSU's only win was against UA who hasn't won anything either. (we probably have the same record as UA right now if we played their schedule.) Remember a couple years back when the apple cup featured a winless UW against a winless WSU? Don't forget that we played that winless UW and only beat them by one point by blocking an extra point.

Lots of exceptions here wickchad, BYU has made a habit out of making fools of Pac-10 teams. I don't think you can use the UW game without mentioning the shellacking that BYU put on a better UCLA team the next week. It's why they play the game.



BYU wins this weekend. Riley will do just fine. He's proven he's got enough arm that defenses would be stupid to play all their chips on stopping the mobile QB.

I think we lose to TCU and either the UH or the OSU game. We win the Bowl game making us 9-4. An improvement over last year but disappointing compared to expectations.

Mars wrote:


Oh yeah, maybe a loss in a bowl game too. Consider:



SMU 40, TCU 33

Houston 38, UCLA 34

Houston 56, ECU 3

Rice 24, Purdue 22

Southern Miss 48, Rice 24

Southern Miss 30, Virginia 24

Southern Miss 63, Navy 35



I would even be very scared to face a rematch with UCF, who probably should have beat us the first time around (see: UCF 30, Boston College 3).

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This article is currently predicting we match up against SMU. I'd be very scared to play either SMU or Houston in the Bowl Game. Could be a very long game for our safeties. I think we match up fine with Southern Miss and hope we don't get a rematch with UCF.

I went with 5-1. I like the idea of needing the bowl win to have a ten win season and end up ranked in the top 25. Now, to whom shall I pin the loss. It is a toss up for me between TCU and Hawaii. In the end I am going to say Hawaii. That's a tough place to play. TCU is beatable this year, and I have a feeling their are a lot of BYU players that can't wait to do some frogstompin'.

Even if we win 10 games this year, we are not top-25 materials. Top 35 at best. This is a down year for BYU, disappointing.

Wickchad84087 wrote:

Stats fail.



San Jose pre-BYU was allowing a PER of 135.12. Post BYU it's 138.53

Oregon St's defensive PER is 154.43 good for 113th.



I'll be very surprised if Riley is ineffective in the passing game. If he is struggling, you let him work through it. He's shown he can get it done. He deserves a few halves to figure things out - at a minimum.



No, at this point in time, I don't think Heaps is capable of a USU-type comeback, nor do I think one will be necessary this week.

Stats don't matter when a team is able to shut down your QB's ability to scramble with their front four. Yes there is a difference between a mediocre Pac 12 team's d-line and two Wac teams' d-lines. Don't forget that OSU has been a very good team over the past five years and its not like they have replaced their entire defense with scrubs this year.



It doesn't matter that OSU's only win was against UA who hasn't won anything either. (we probably have the same record as UA right now if we played their schedule.) Remember a couple years back when the apple cup featured a winless UW against a winless WSU? Don't forget that we played that winless UW and only beat them by one point by blocking an extra point.

Except that through two games, no one has stopped Riley yet in scrambling with just their front four.



Rushing Defense:

#34 Utah State 115.4 ypg (BYU had 200 yards, so USU was even more stout vs the run w/out the BYU game)

#47 Oregon St 130.2 ypg

#94 San Jose St 192.3 ypg (BYU had 224 yards, so SJSU was even more stout vs the run w/out the BYU game).



Sacramento St had 71 yards on 32 carries; Wisconsin had 208 yards on 43 carries; UCLA had 211 yards on 49 carries; Arizona St had 109 yards on 32 carries ; Arizona had 53 yards on 19 carries.



No has really gashed the Beavers and the only team they really stopped was Sac St and Arizon (who barely tried to run).



Oregon State is a team we should beat.