Riley Nelson's heart ...

won this game!



His spark raised the play of the rest of the team!!!

No that TIP won the game, the ball was HIGH and BEHIND, no tip and it would have been incomplete.

Without Riley there wouldn't have been a chance to catch a deflected pass



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The team came out FLAT for the 2nd half ... (what's up with that!) ... they appeared to be in the process of laying down until Riley came in and then they played. They made plays they wouldn't have made earlier in the game. They worked harder.



Maybe I give Riley too much credit ... but that's when the team woke up.

Wasn't Riley's heart...it was his abs.

BYUROCKS wrote:
No that TIP won the game, the ball was HIGH and BEHIND, no tip and it would have been incomplete.

Are you having a hard time accepting that Riley rallied the team to come from behind and win? You seem to be more concerned with how Jake plays than if the team wins.



You can spin things however you want, but Jake and Riley both QB'd for the same team tonight and Riley was successful while Jake wasn't. If you want to blame the WRs then go ahead, but then you may need to ask yourself why the WRs perform better for Riley. I don't know if they do or why they would. Either way Riley came in and got it done.

Riley definitely brought heart. Somehow he was able to ignite a spark on offense that has been missing all season long. Heaps has been far too inconsistent this year, and Riley came in and made plays. If Heaps threw that last TD pass in the exact manner as Riley, and if it had been tipped, nobody would've been in position to get it. The offense does not trust Heaps, and for good reason. he isn't making the throws. Tonight, Riley did. That 40 yard bomb to Jacobson would've been a pick, incomplete pass or a sack. No way he buys enough time to bomb it to Jacobson. Like it or not, Riley won this game for BYU and his heart ignited the heart of the rest of the offense. Jake needs to watch and learn from Riley and learn how to have heart like that.

BYUROCKS wrote:
No that TIP won the game, the ball was HIGH and BEHIND, no tip and it would have been incomplete.

Pull your head out of the sand - no tip and PI was called because JJ who tipped it was interfered - would have been 1st and goal from the 1 or so with 11 seconds and 1 time out. Rise up. Make plays - not excuses. Hopefully Jake is not still whining about how it is everyone's fault but his - or he will never grow up.



If Riley Nelson had not put the ball first and goal at the 1 for Jake in the first half, we would have been down 3 scores in the 4th quarter.



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Ungoy wrote:
Riley definitely brought heart. Somehow he was able to ignite a spark on offense that has been missing all season long. Heaps has been far too inconsistent this year, and Riley came in and made plays. If Heaps threw that last TD pass in the exact manner as Riley, and if it had been tipped, nobody would've been in position to get it. The offense does not trust Heaps, and for good reason. he isn't making the throws. Tonight, Riley did. That 40 yard bomb to Jacobson would've been a pick, incomplete pass or a sack. No way he buys enough time to bomb it to Jacobson. Like it or not, Riley won this game for BYU and his heart ignited the heart of the rest of the offense. Jake needs to watch and learn from Riley and learn how to have heart like that.

THIS and ignited the defense. A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats. All of them.



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My observations of tonight



Heaps watches one receiver until he throws to him.

Nelson checks through the progression.



Heaps rifles almost every pass, at any distance.

Nelson throws a more touch pass.



Heaps is very inaccurate this year.

Nelson isn't as wild.



Heaps is a star.

Nelson is a competitor.



If Heaps gets to the blue zone, they might possibly get a field goal.

If Nelson gets to the blue zone, they are likely to get a touchdown.



I really believe that Heaps is a better player than he has shown this season, but leaving him in isn't bringing it out.

Nelson has a lot in common with Doman, who also wasn't a great passer, but was a real competitor, which made him good enough to make an NFL roster for multiple years, and he was not cut, he left to coach at BYU.



It won't be as easy for Nelson when teams have a chance to game plan for him, but we haven't had a chance to see how far his competitive edge will take him, and some clipboard time might do wonders for Jake.

Schmoe wrote:
Wasn't Riley's heart...it was his abs.

...and his lovely hair.

I agree that it was Nelson's heart and competitive spirit/leadership that BYU won that game last night.



A few things that I noticed about Heaps and Nelson that I don't know if they have been mentioned before.



-One thing that impressed me was that Nelson would run and high five the receiver that caught the pass, on any play. I think that is an important thing for a leader to have that quality. I don't recall Heaps doing that besides maybe on a TD pass.



-Another thing that I noticed was that even on the sidelines, Heaps looked like he had no excitement whatsoever. I really hope Heaps can support the team in what ever direction the team goes now.



I think that Nelson supported the team no matter what his role is, on the sideline or playing. I love Nelson and his heart of playing football.



Great job by Nelson rallying the team to victory.



GO COUGS!!

I think Heaps will come around to supporting the team. But right now, it's got to really hurt. What happened last night was extremely personal for him. Like most of us, it'll take some time to get over and come around.

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...and his lovely hair.

I wish BYU would have let me grow my hair that long when I went to school there!



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bigbluepuma wrote:
My observations of tonight



Heaps watches one receiver until he throws to him.

Nelson checks through the progression.



Heaps rifles almost every pass, at any distance.

Nelson throws a more touch pass.



Heaps is very inaccurate this year.

Nelson isn't as wild.



Heaps is a star.

Nelson is a competitor.

If Heaps gets to the blue zone, they might possibly get a field goal.

If Nelson gets to the blue zone, they are likely to get a touchdown.



I really believe that Heaps is a better player than he has shown this season, but leaving him in isn't bringing it out.

Nelson has a lot in common with Doman, who also wasn't a great passer, but was a real competitor, which made him good enough to make an NFL roster for multiple years, and he was not cut, he left to coach at BYU.



It won't be as easy for Nelson when teams have a chance to game plan for him, but we haven't had a chance to see how far his competitive edge will take him, and some clipboard time might do wonders for Jake.

How true. IF Jake ever learns to compete I think he can be great, but frankly I think he played better last year.

BYUROCKS wrote:
No that TIP won the game, the ball was HIGH and BEHIND, no tip and it would have been incomplete.

You mean the play where JJ got held, so if it would have fallen incomplete we still would have had 11 seconds left, ten yards closer to the endzone, with a QB who knows how to compete? Sounds like we still would have won to me.

Methinks we deify Mr. Nelson too much. 22 mins does not a kingdom build. But it was an awesome 22 mins and a good foundation was laid.



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1967cougar wrote:
Methinks we deify Mr. Nelson too much. 22 mins does not a kingdom build. But it was an awesome 22 mins and a good foundation was laid.



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Yeah, it's easy to exaggerate Nelson's accomplishments in light of the horrendous QB play we've seen so far this year.

Schmoe wrote:

Methinks we deify Mr. Nelson too much. 22 mins does not a kingdom build. But it was an awesome 22 mins and a good foundation was laid.



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Yeah, it's easy to exaggerate Nelson's accomplishments in light of the horrendous QB play we've seen so far this year.

If you can say " a rising tide lifts all boats" could you also say "one boat sinking makes a stationary boat appear to be rising?"

vancouvercougar wrote:

1967cougar wrote:
Methinks we deify Mr. Nelson too much. 22 mins does not a kingdom build. But it was an awesome 22 mins and a good foundation was laid.



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Yeah, it's easy to exaggerate Nelson's accomplishments in light of the horrendous QB play we've seen so far this year.

If you can say " a rising tide lifts all boats" could you also say "one boat sinking makes a stationary boat appear to be rising?"

Haha, good use of the metaphor. :lol: