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Assuming we continue our current win streak and beat SMC and Gonzaga to win the WCC tourney, what seed do we get? Does Gonzaga get a higher seed?

I think if that happens we get a 3 seed as well as Gonzaga.


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I'd agree. 3 is the ceiling for BYU and probably the floor for Gonzaga.


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I concur that a 3 seed is the top end and we should expect that if we win the WCC tournament, no matter which teams we end up playing. We expect it to be SMC/Gonzaga, but it could be someone else.

I just think all these brackets as of today projecting BYU as a 6 seed are out of line with reality and we're getting dis'd big time under that scenario.


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EM_Puma wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:39 pm I concur that a 3 seed is the top end and we should expect that if we win the WCC tournament, no matter which teams we end up playing. We expect it to be SMC/Gonzaga, but it could be someone else.

I just think all these brackets as of today projecting BYU as a 6 seed are out of line with reality and we're getting dis'd big time under that scenario.
Only Saint Mary's College and Gonzaga can give us the quality Quad1 wins that we would need to propel us to a 3 seed. I believe we're 3-4 in Quad1 games this year. We won't be a 3 seed if we only have 3 Quad1 wins.

The NET Rankings are about building your resume of quality wins, not about the rankings that the selection committee will follow.


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EM_Puma wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:39 pm I concur that a 3 seed is the top end and we should expect that if we win the WCC tournament, no matter which teams we end up playing. We expect it to be SMC/Gonzaga, but it could be someone else.

I just think all these brackets as of today projecting BYU as a 6 seed are out of line with reality and we're getting dis'd big time under that scenario.
I was a little surprised BYU only moved to 15 in the polls this week with all the losses. Maybe only playing one game against a below average opponent factored in there.


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So Greg Wrubell tweets this yesterday



Today, Lunardi has BYU as a 5 seed in Tampa taking on E. Tennessee St. Winner plays Wisconsin (assuming of course that they beat 13 seed Stephen F. Austin) to make it to Sweet 16. Under that scenario, we'd have to beat #1 overall Kansas to make it to Elite 8.

At least we finally moved up a seed. It's been beyond me to understand how we could be ranked where we are in so many polls and only be pulling a 6 seed.
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As a 5 seed, you play the 4 if you win your first game, so to me, being a 4 or 5 seed is about the same, just playing a seed that is a seed higher, but I don't know that playing a 13, as opposed to a 12 is that magically different.

I just looked at the history over the last 35 years and:
12 seeds have won 37.5% of the time
13 seeds have won 21 % of the time

So, there is a bit of a difference being a 4 seed and playing a 13 seed. Let's hope for a win in the semi-final vs hopefully a Quad 1 opponent like SMC, and maybe, even if we lose to the Zags, we might possibly make it to a 4. A lot will depend too on not only what BYU does in their tournament, but what the teams with lower seeds do in theirs. Everybody wins and there's not much movement to be made.
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I am looking for the WCC to do some damage in the NCAAs.


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SOS declines could be upset experienced by Houston. Thankfully USU pulled it out at the end. I thought they were going down vs. New Mexico. It's amazing how all this gets you to pull for other teams. Boise beat UNLV, so I'm not certain what affect that had as we lost to BSU in OT, but beat UNLV.


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We're hovering around the same area. No big changes, which is what I would expect. A point drop or raise here and there should be fine.

Assuming we play and beat both SMC and Gonzaga in the WCC tourney, I suspect our ratings will only go up a point or two. There just isn't that much room left. Beating those teams will give us more swagger and recognition heading into selection Sunday.


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