Former interim Utah State HC Frank Maile lands at Boise St.

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Former interim Utah State HC Frank Maile lands at Boise St.

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BYU was foolish for letting him slip through their fingers. He could have had the same position at BYU.


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hawkwing wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:12 am BYU was foolish for letting him slip through their fingers. He could have had the same position at BYU.
But that would mean that Tuiaki would have to relinquish his Dline coaching duties and we got rid of a better Dline coach to put him there. Yeah, not going to happen.


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hawkwing wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:12 am BYU was foolish for letting him slip through their fingers. He could have had the same position at BYU.
The word is Coach Kevin Clune is a done deal, they waiting for the OL Coach to be decided and then both will be announced. It sounds like the leaders for OL are Coach TJ Woods (2020 Utah St/does not sound like they are retaining him) and Coach Brent Myers (Weber St), but there could be others like Coach Bob Connelly at Northern Arizona (experienced coach, OL coach at both Alabama and USC under Sark).


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But we want Pugh.


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scott715 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:26 pm But we want Pugh.
I've kind of changed my mind on Coach Pugh and wonder how much BYU's improvement was Coach Grime vs Coach Pugh and or Mateos. Did you know Coach Mateos did not have a job when BYU hired him (he was not retained at Texas St with the coaching staff shake up).

Look at Coach Ryan Pugh's coaching history:
2012 Auburn: OL GA
2013 Virginia Tech: OL GA
2014 Cincinnati: OL GA
2015 LSU: OL GA
2016-17 UTSA: OL Coach
2018 BYU: OL Coach
2019-20 Troy: co-OC/ OL Coach

So, we see he does not have much OL Coaching experience (5 years/before BYU 2 years) and his longest stay at a program has been 2 years (UTSA & Troy). How good has the Troy OL been the last 2 years?
Another thing to think about is how good of a recruiter is he? Do you remember one recruit he was the main reason for coming to BYU? How many years would he coach at BYU before jumping to his next job? The last time it was after his first year.

Look at Coach Eric Mateos' coaching history:
2011 Southwest Baptist: Assistant OL Coach
2012 Hutchinson Community College: OL Coach/ Recruiting Coordinator
2013-15 Arkansas: OL GA
2016 LSU: TE/ OL GA
2017-18 Texas St: OL Coach
2019-20 BYU: OL Coach

Coach Mateos only had 2 years experience of OL Coach before BYU also and they both were GA's for a year under Coach Grimes. So... one could kind of see how the success of BYU could have mainly been do to Coach Grimes (2014-17 LSU: Run Game Coordinator/ OL Coach) more than the other 2 former Coach Grimes GA's.


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E-Zone15 wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:53 pm
scott715 wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:26 pm But we want Pugh.
I've kind of changed my mind on Coach Pugh and wonder how much BYU's improvement was Coach Grime vs Coach Pugh and or Mateos. Did you know Coach Mateos did not have a job when BYU hired him (he was not retained at Texas St with the coaching staff shake up).

Look at Coach Ryan Pugh's coaching history:
2012 Auburn: OL GA
2013 Virginia Tech: OL GA
2014 Cincinnati: OL GA
2015 LSU: OL GA
2016-17 UTSA: OL Coach
2018 BYU: OL Coach
2019-20 Troy: co-OC/ OL Coach

So, we see he does not have much OL Coaching experience (5 years/before BYU 2 years) and his longest stay at a program has been 2 years (UTSA & Troy). How good has the Troy OL been the last 2 years?
Another thing to think about is how good of a recruiter is he? Do you remember one recruit he was the main reason for coming to BYU? How many years would he coach at BYU before jumping to his next job? The last time it was after his first year.

Look at Coach Eric Mateos' coaching history:
2011 Southwest Baptist: Assistant OL Coach
2012 Hutchinson Community College: OL Coach/ Recruiting Coordinator
2013-15 Arkansas: OL GA
2016 LSU: TE/ OL GA
2017-18 Texas St: OL Coach
2019-20 BYU: OL Coach

Coach Mateos only had 2 years experience of OL Coach before BYU also and they both were GA's for a year under Coach Grimes. So... one could kind of see how the success of BYU could have mainly been do to Coach Grimes (2014-17 LSU: Run Game Coordinator/ OL Coach) more than the other 2 former Coach Grimes GA's.
Well, if I am consistent, I say that the OL improvement is mostly on Grimes since the last time BYU had a line this good Grimes was our OL coach. Frankly, I'm not impressed with any of the names listed to replace Mateos/Grimes.


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Re: Former interim Utah State HC Frank Maile lands at Boise St.

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Okay I am convinced. We want Grimes. I can't fault Pugh for leaving the Y to move up to OC. It was new and I am not concerned that he did not excel. Grimes did not excel either as a new OC.

I rather get the best coach we can even if they only last a couple of years. We need to keep the OL improving now. This next year is pretty important to stay ranked and reestablish ourselves.


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