My Question about Oregon State:
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My Question about Oregon State:
Is it possible that they have THE best (healthy) QB, THE best RB, THE best WR, and THE best DT (a Samoan from Utah) that BYU has seen this year, all on the same team?
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
Best QB was probably in OU or FSU
Best RB was in OU or TCU
Best WR's were probably in OU, FSU, and Utah
Best DT was in TCU
so... no!
Best RB was in OU or TCU
Best WR's were probably in OU, FSU, and Utah
Best DT was in TCU
so... no!
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
Best QB--I don't think I'll give it to you even if we ignore Bradford. Passer-wise, Canfield is about the equivalent of Ponder, but he isn't going to run on us like Ponder or Dalton, and I don't think he's as accurate as Dalton.
Best RB--Absolutely. Not only has Jacquizz run for more yards than any primary back we have defended with 1377 yards, but he has done it at the highest ypc of 5.4. He's a home-run threat every time.
Best WR--I think Rodgers is the #2 receiver we will face this year. I still think Jeremy Williams from Tulane was the best, he just unfortunately didn't have a top-flight quarterback to get him the ball. I think Rodgers edges out Ryan Broyles for the second-best WR we have defended. Kerley is a good receiver, but he gets a lot of hype for his PR/KR that makes him seem better than offense than he really is. When Kerley gets open, he's deadly, but he's open far less frequently than a premier receiver should be.
Best DT--I think Paea is the best DT we have faced on game day. I think he's right up there with Gerald McCoy, but I think Paea in December is a tougher obstacle than McCoy in game one of the season. I don't know who Italics is talking about since TCU didn't even have a first team all-conference DT, meaning we faced at least two better in conference than whoever he is thinking about. I'm assuming he is thinking of Hughes, in which case he errs because Hughes plays a different position.
Best RB--Absolutely. Not only has Jacquizz run for more yards than any primary back we have defended with 1377 yards, but he has done it at the highest ypc of 5.4. He's a home-run threat every time.
Best WR--I think Rodgers is the #2 receiver we will face this year. I still think Jeremy Williams from Tulane was the best, he just unfortunately didn't have a top-flight quarterback to get him the ball. I think Rodgers edges out Ryan Broyles for the second-best WR we have defended. Kerley is a good receiver, but he gets a lot of hype for his PR/KR that makes him seem better than offense than he really is. When Kerley gets open, he's deadly, but he's open far less frequently than a premier receiver should be.
Best DT--I think Paea is the best DT we have faced on game day. I think he's right up there with Gerald McCoy, but I think Paea in December is a tougher obstacle than McCoy in game one of the season. I don't know who Italics is talking about since TCU didn't even have a first team all-conference DT, meaning we faced at least two better in conference than whoever he is thinking about. I'm assuming he is thinking of Hughes, in which case he errs because Hughes plays a different position.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
I am not as worried about stopping the run as I am about stopping their pass game which is a their strength if I understand correctly.BerliNY wrote:I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
I'd say Canfield is equal to Dalton and Ponder. Better down field passer than both, but less mobility. Honestly, I fear his down field passing most of all. Bradford played on half behind the worst O-line in the country, so hard to compare him.
As to the Rodgers boys, I'd say that Quizz is the best RB we have seen all year for sure. He reminds me of Ronney Jenkins with his size, speed and pass catching skills. Another year like this, and he is in the Heisman mix next year. And James is really fast and will give Logan fits with his speed, but not his size.
I fully expect OSU to put up 30+ points on us, and we will need to score a lot to win. We will move the ball on them, though. Force some turnovers, and I think we take it. Give them away, and we will lose.
As to the Rodgers boys, I'd say that Quizz is the best RB we have seen all year for sure. He reminds me of Ronney Jenkins with his size, speed and pass catching skills. Another year like this, and he is in the Heisman mix next year. And James is really fast and will give Logan fits with his speed, but not his size.
I fully expect OSU to put up 30+ points on us, and we will need to score a lot to win. We will move the ball on them, though. Force some turnovers, and I think we take it. Give them away, and we will lose.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
I think passing is the strength of ANY team when playing BYU.jonnylingo wrote:I am not as worried about stopping the run as I am about stopping their pass game which is a their strength if I understand correctly.BerliNY wrote:I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
Except for Wyoming, AFA, Utah and Shakey Smithson, of course. And Tulane.Italics wrote:I think passing is the strength of ANY team when playing BYU.jonnylingo wrote:I am not as worried about stopping the run as I am about stopping their pass game which is a their strength if I understand correctly.BerliNY wrote:I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
I don't think Tulane or Utah did all that bad at passing against us. We were very lucky Utah didn't have at least two or three long td passes against us.byutx wrote:Except for Wyoming, AFA, Utah and Shakey Smithson, of course. And Tulane.Italics wrote:I think passing is the strength of ANY team when playing BYU.jonnylingo wrote:I am not as worried about stopping the run as I am about stopping their pass game which is a their strength if I understand correctly.BerliNY wrote:I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
Wyoming and AFA games I didn't get to see. AFA doesn't surprise me though - this is the same team that only had one pass attempt against Utah. It's sort of like saying, "Man, we sure shut down the passing game of that option-driven Army offense!"
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Re: My Question about Oregon State:
1. Was it luck or did we rattle Wynn? He completed those passes vs. UNM, SDSU and even against TCU.Italics wrote:I don't think Tulane or Utah did all that bad at passing against us. We were very lucky Utah didn't have at least two or three long td passes against us.byutx wrote:Except for Wyoming, AFA, Utah and Shakey Smithson, of course. And Tulane.Italics wrote:I think passing is the strength of ANY team when playing BYU.jonnylingo wrote:I am not as worried about stopping the run as I am about stopping their pass game which is a their strength if I understand correctly.BerliNY wrote:I don't know about you, but I for one am really looking forward to this game just to see how good our run defense really is. If we can stop their run game I think we win going away.
Wyoming and AFA games I didn't get to see. AFA doesn't surprise me though - this is the same team that only had one pass attempt against Utah. It's sort of like saying, "Man, we sure shut down the passing game of that option-driven Army offense!"
2. The AFA, Wyo and Tulane reference was TIC. (you should've known better )