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Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-19T12:04:44-06:00

Sno, those numbers are closer than I thought they would be. If anything they've tempered my thoughts that Gunner is the clear cut favorite ha ha. I think Gunner passes the eye test as a true QB more than Hall, but hall's numbers are pretty impressive.
Hall's deep passes remind me of Mangum's. BOth benefit from good receivers who win 50/50 balls but not necessarily on the money or where a receiver can catch them in stride.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:04 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-19T10:55:51-06:00

Since halftime of the USF games, our opponents have had 37 drives. 3 of them were Baylor's 1 play 1st half Hail Mary and two knee downs (Boise & Baylor). So that's 34 drives.

Those 34 drives have featured:
15 drives that lasted 8 or more plays (.441)
7 drives that lasted 5 or more minutes (.206)
19 drives that scored (.559)
7 drives that went 3-and-out (.206)
2 turnovers (.059)
29 of 59 3rd down attempts (.492) including
11 of 25 (.440) on 3rd & 7 or longer
7 of 10 4th down attempts (.700)
51 chunk plays plays (runs between 7-14 yds passesbetween 10-19 yds (18.9 % of plays)
17 explosive plays (runs 15+ yds passes 20+ yds (6.7% of plays)
so more than 25% of opponent plays are gaining huge yards.
Bottom line what's ailing the BYU Cougars right now is a defensive inability to get off the field.

You just statistically proved what I was seeing with my eyes.

Statistics: Posted by frdbtr — Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:55 am

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-19T10:12:41-06:00

That looks pretty dang close to me. I don't know what else it would take to convince you if not your own numbers.

Since when is 60 PER points "pretty dang close"?

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:12 am

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-19T10:05:02-06:00

That looks pretty dang close to me. I don't know what else it would take to convince you if not your own numbers.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:05 am

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-18T14:52:40-06:00

Hall completed 3 passes of 45 yards or longer in the Baylor game. Romney, who is an excellent long throw QB has never done that, in fact, only a handful of QBs at BYU ever have.

LOL.

How many games has Romney played in where (a) the run game was absolutely ineffective, and (b) BYU was playing from 2+ scores behind? That's a ripe recipe for additional downfield attempts.

I don't think we want to brag about who got more desperation heaves downfield as a sign of who throws a better deep ball than who.

Here's a less situationally driven statistic--Romney has completed 6-of-7 deep passes this season for 244 yards and a TD, good for a 425.7 passer rating on deep passes.

Here are the career numbers, including Hall:

Hall is no slouch, but no one can convince me Hall is anywhere near Romney on deep routes.

Statistics: Posted by snoscythe — Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:52 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-18T14:00:32-06:00

Hall completed 3 passes of 45 yards or longer in the Baylor game. Romney, who is an excellent long throw QB has never done that, in fact, only a handful of QBs at BYU ever have. A lack of accurate down field passing is not an issue with this offense.

Statistics: Posted by hawkwing — Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:00 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-17T21:16:13-06:00

Since halftime of the USF games, our opponents have had 37 drives. 3 of them were Baylor's 1 play 1st half Hail Mary and two knee downs (Boise & Baylor). So that's 34 drives.

Those 34 drives have featured:
15 drives that lasted 8 or more plays (.441)
7 drives that lasted 5 or more minutes (.206)
19 drives that scored (.559)
7 drives that went 3-and-out (.206)
2 turnovers (.059)
29 of 59 3rd down attempts (.492) including
11 of 25 (.440) on 3rd & 7 or longer
7 of 10 4th down attempts (.700)
51 chunk plays plays (runs between 7-14 yds passesbetween 10-19 yds (18.9 % of plays)
17 explosive plays (runs 15+ yds passes 20+ yds (6.7% of plays)
so more than 25% of opponent plays are gaining huge yards.
Bottom line what's ailing the BYU Cougars right now is a defensive inability to get off the field.

This. Defense is the biggest culprit right now. Hall played well enough against BSU and Baylor to get the win.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:16 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-17T21:15:27-06:00

I'd love to go back and play BSU and Baylor with Romney at QB.

The defense just isn't getting it done. Really, it never has against good teams in the Sitake era. Yeah, they had good numbers last year (against possibly the worst schedule BYU has played in decades) but even coastal carolina gave BYU's D the biz.
I've been a big fan of Romney, but I thought Hall played well given the playing calling. I'll probably make this comment elsewhere, but I though A-Rod was as guilty as Tuiaki against Baylor. I lost count of the number of times we went for a short yardage play on third and long. Hall though I thought threw the ball well and did you see that he's finally throwing spirals? I kid you not at the beginning of the season his lame duck throws were making my stomach sick just watching them. His run was beautiful, but Arod has to call his number more. Not like Michael Vick. But if he's not running 5 times a game then we are underutilizing him. Or his he made of glass and they're afraid he's gonna break?

I've thought about this. Been a nice honeymoon for A-rod. Very little critique from fans so far.

Statistics: Posted by BroncoBot — Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:15 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-17T19:38:20-06:00

Since halftime of the USF games, our opponents have had 37 drives. 3 of them were Baylor's 1 play 1st half Hail Mary and two knee downs (Boise & Baylor). So that's 34 drives.

Those 34 drives have featured:

15 drives that lasted 8 or more plays (.441)
- 7 drives that lasted 5 or more minutes (.206)
- 19 drives that scored (.559)
- 7 drives that went 3-and-out (.206)
- 2 turnovers (.059)
- 29 of 59 3rd down attempts (.492) including
- 11 of 25 (.440) on 3rd & 7 or longer
- 7 of 10 4th down attempts (.700)
- 51 chunk plays plays (runs between 7-14 yds passesbetween 10-19 yds (18.9 % of plays)
- 17 explosive plays (runs 15+ yds passes 20+ yds (6.7% of plays)
- so more than 25% of opponent plays are gaining huge yards.
Bottom line what's ailing the BYU Cougars right now is a defensive inability to get off the field.

Statistics: Posted by SpiffCoug — Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:38 pm

Re: Hall or Romney?

2021-10-17T08:51:36-06:00

I'd love to go back and play BSU and Baylor with Romney at QB.

The defense just isn't getting it done. Really, it never has against good teams in the Sitake era. Yeah, they had good numbers last year (against possibly the worst schedule BYU has played in decades) but even coastal carolina gave BYU's D the biz.

I've been a big fan of Romney, but I thought Hall played well given the playing calling. I'll probably make this comment elsewhere, but I though A-Rod was as guilty as Tuiaki against Baylor. I lost count of the number of times we went for a short yardage play on third and long. Hall though I thought threw the ball well and did you see that he's finally throwing spirals? I kid you not at the beginning of the season his lame duck throws were making my stomach sick just watching them. His run was beautiful, but Arod has to call his number more. Not like Michael Vick. But if he's not running 5 times a game then we are underutilizing him. Or his he made of glass and they're afraid he's gonna break?

Statistics: Posted by byufan4ever — Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:51 am