Medical Marijuana and the Church

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Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:09 am And the proposition being imperfect isn't an argument against it either.
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Jarhead wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:42 pm
Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:09 am And the proposition being imperfect isn't an argument against it either.
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If you missed the point made earlier, it was that America has few if any perfect laws. We can't even agree on some of our most basic concepts, such as how much taxes citiens should pay, or how to best elect a President.


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Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:18 pm
Jarhead wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:42 pm
Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:09 am And the proposition being imperfect isn't an argument against it either.
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If you missed the point made earlier, it was that America has few if any perfect laws. We can't even agree on some of our most basic concepts, such as how much taxes citiens should pay, or how to best elect a President.
Every law is imperfect.

But some laws are more imperfect than others.


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snoscythe wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:10 am
Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:18 pm
Jarhead wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:42 pm
Mars wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:09 am And the proposition being imperfect isn't an argument against it either.
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If you missed the point made earlier, it was that America has few if any perfect laws. We can't even agree on some of our most basic concepts, such as how much taxes citiens should pay, or how to best elect a President.
Every law is imperfect.

But some laws are more imperfect than others.
Depends on who is defining perfection.
Prop 2 seems to be a perfect stepstone to get marijuana into the state of Utah. For those who want pot in utah, this would be a huge success.


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snoscythe wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:49 am
jvquarterback wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:08 am I wonder what the position on growing your own willow trees in your back yard is.
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The point is the licensed pharmacy requirement. People have been chewing willow bark, cocaine leaves, and using cannabis forever. It's hubris again to believe that a licensed pharmacy (or a physician prescription) makes any of these medications any safer. People can and have safely self dosed medications for thousands of years without a prescription or a licensed pharmacy. It just seems like a cop out.

If the church is going to have a position on the matter they should just say that cannabis strains that alter mental status remove individuals from the spirit. Don't do that. We also think that should be illegal because of damage the use of those products cause to individuals.


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The Church's stance is correct. The argument that started and drove this thread to 6 friggin' pages is beyond stupid. Get out of here with your "medical marijuana."


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KingCoug wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:46 pm The Church's stance is correct. The argument that started and drove this thread to 6 friggin' pages is beyond stupid. Get out of here with your "medical marijuana."
The church's position is “We support medicinal use of marijuana with safeguards,” according to Elder Jack Gerard.

They also ask us to review a certain memorandum and "make our own decision."

I've got no problem's with those positions. You seem to have some problems with it though.


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Press conference today to disclose an agreement between the pro-Prop 2 folks, the anti-Prop 2 folks, and the legislature:

https://www.ksl.com/article/46400634/an ... d-thursday


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I broke up with my religion almost 15 years ago. I just received my state card a couple of weeks ago. Medical Marijuana is legal in my state. I am strictly going for pain relief. I am taking the CBD capsule at night. It's just like a regular pill. I didn't notice pain relief right away, but it did allow me to sleep the whole night. That is VERY rare for me. Now I sleep the whole night through. That alone is amazing. I also started using THC in patch form. I only use a quarter of the https://www.gyo.green/cannabis-seedbank ... abis-seeds patch during the day. The consultants referred to it as "micro doses" which give slow and steady relief during the day. If I use half a patch, it really boosts my mood. I tried an edible once. I only had an eighth of a bar, but it was awful. It tasted like a dry handful of oregano wrapped in chocolate. I had horrible dreams and didn't like the way I felt. The low doses are bringing a steady relief. Combined with better sleep, it makes the morning easier.


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rentemailad742 wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:16 pm I broke up with my religion almost 15 years ago. I just received my state card a couple of weeks ago. Medical Marijuana is legal in my state. I am strictly going for pain relief. I am taking the CBD capsule at night. It's just like a regular pill. I didn't notice pain relief right away, but it did allow me to sleep the whole night. That is VERY rare for me. Now I sleep the whole night through. That alone is amazing. I also started using THC in patch form. I only use a quarter of the https://www.gyo.green/cannabis-seedbank ... abis-seeds patch during the day. The consultants referred to it as "micro doses" which give slow and steady relief during the day. If I use half a patch, it really boosts my mood. I tried an edible once. I only had an eighth of a bar, but it was awful. It tasted like a dry handful of oregano wrapped in chocolate. I had horrible dreams and didn't like the way I felt. The low doses are bringing a steady relief. Combined with better sleep, it makes the morning easier.
Glad you're feeling better. The problem with marijuana products really is the federal government. If they removed it from schedule 1 and allowed easier access for research it could be produced in a much safer manner. I get the church's hesitation when the federal government still says they can arrest people for using it though. It's plenty safe now but it could be even safer if the federal government would just get out of the way.


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