BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

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Fido wrote:
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I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
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Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by hawkwing » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm

I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by Mars » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:10 pm

hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm
I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.
In Michigan, there were several large motorcycle events each year, and no one ever seemed upset by members attending church on Sunday in their riding leathers. Pretty cool, imo.
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Post by snoscythe » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:46 pm

hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm
I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.
But those heathens in Idaho....

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Post by hawkwing » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:53 pm

snoscythe wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:46 pm
hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm
I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.
But those heathens in Idaho....
Don't even get me started on THAT group!

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by BoiseBYU » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:57 pm

hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:53 pm
snoscythe wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:46 pm
hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm
I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.
But those heathens in Idaho....
Don't even get me started on THAT group!
We're beyond the pale ;)

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by Mars » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:04 pm

BoiseBYU wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:57 pm
hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:53 pm
snoscythe wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:46 pm
hawkwing wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:16 pm
I don't care if a member in Utah shows up to church in jeans, shorts, or whatever.
But those heathens in Idaho....
Don't even get me started on THAT group!
We're beyond the pale ;)
And beside the pail (you know, for milking). ;)
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Post by BroncoBot » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:59 pm

Gunk wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:59 pm
Fido wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:32 pm
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by hawkwing » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:39 am

BroncoBot wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:59 pm
Gunk wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:59 pm
Fido wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:32 pm
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.

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Re: BYU announces caffeinated beverages will be served on campus and at games

Post by byufan4ever » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:17 pm

hawkwing wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:39 am
BroncoBot wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:59 pm
Gunk wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:59 pm
Fido wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:32 pm
I've served as Elders Quorum President in a previous ward I lived in and had an interesting experience there. I had just grown out a goatee right before I was called. The Stake President (who also worked at LDS Church headquarters) called me in and asked if I would accept that calling. His next question was how attached I was to the facial hair. I just laughed it off and made a comment about it being new--but he didn't move on until I agreed to shave it off for the duration of my calling. I did because it wasn't a big deal to me--but then when I was calling counselors, one guy I suggested is a guy who also has facial hair and puts highlights in his hair. I was counseled that he would not be a good option and that I should focus on people who the ward "can look up to". I don't know if the Bishop knew something I didn't or if his comments were specifically concerning his grooming--but that always rubbed me a bit wrong.
I've since moved wards/stakes and have a goatee again. But I was called to be in the HP group leadership--and they said nothing about facial hair--though none of the SP have any. I'm not sure if that is just a "preference" thing or what--but facial hair has nothing to do with ones' worthiness or ability to serve. That is another area I'd like to see BYU and the church in general chill out a little over.
Every now and then I've grown a beard. It's mostly due to laziness so I have never been too attached to it.

Once when I was sporting a beard, I was in the temple. While getting a name I was asked whether I was a temple worker, typical question. One of the workers turned to the man handing out the names and said, "You don't have to ask him that. He has a beard. If someone has a beard don't bother asking that because they can't be temple workers." The two of them then proceeded to have a conversation because the fact temple workers can't have beards was a new concept to the one worker.
Easy there Gunk, perhaps the temple worker was someone who wanted to grow a beard but was following protocol? I think both sides of the argument get too worked up in the church sometimes. I also didn't know that being shaven was a requirement for working in the temple. CAn you get a beard card? ha ha .
I do not believe there are any exceptions allowed to the rule of being clean shaven. If that option is unavailable to you, you will be invited to serve in other ways, I imagine.
I thought they were joking. So if someone has a beard they really can't be a temple worker?
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