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Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:46 am
by Ddawg
Bingo! Retired Sen. Harry Reid is LDS too - sooooo - we should embrace and defend what that POS says? Not so.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:53 am
by Ddawg
IMHO, Ronald Reagan was the "gold standard" of a great GOP president. It was Reagan who had the 11th Commandment.

"The Eleventh Commandment was a phrase used by President Ronald Reagan during his 1966 campaign for Governor of California. The Commandment reads: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."

Now, for Sen. Flake to stand in the "well" of the senate and attack a sitting GOP president, he was way out of line. To disagree and express those difference privately - 100% Ok. I also disagree with Trump attacking fellow GOP members publicly. Both are wrong.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
by BlueK
BroncoBot wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:32 am
BlueK wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:26 pm
GREAT speech by fellow Cougar and LDS Senator Jeff Flake today. Hit the nail on the head about everything that's wrong with the republicans today.
The "fellow cougar and LDS senator" is one of my least favorite angles ever. Haven't listened to Flake's speech yet, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt because he goes to church.
LDS people seem very willing to accept the views of any politician/celebrity who attends church with them.
Just like Americans seem so ready to listen and pander to whatever garbage hollywood celebs have to say.
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend by mentioning his BYU fandom or religion. I like what he said. I still believe in the values he stated in the speech, which used to be Republican values. The values of Trump's GOP are replacing those with anger, xenophobia and isolationism. You can have that garbage if you want.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:21 pm
by Mars
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
BroncoBot wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:32 am
BlueK wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:26 pm
GREAT speech by fellow Cougar and LDS Senator Jeff Flake today. Hit the nail on the head about everything that's wrong with the republicans today.
The "fellow cougar and LDS senator" is one of my least favorite angles ever. Haven't listened to Flake's speech yet, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt because he goes to church.
LDS people seem very willing to accept the views of any politician/celebrity who attends church with them.
Just like Americans seem so ready to listen and pander to whatever garbage hollywood celebs have to say.
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend by mentioning his BYU fandom or religion. I like what he said. I still believe in the values he stated in the speech, which used to be Republican values. The values of Trump's GOP are replacing those with anger, xenophobia and isolationism. You can have that garbage if you want.
In other words, everything wrong about politics today.

Hillary and her ilk are definitely no better, but they are much better about being sneaky about it.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:28 pm
by Ddawg
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend by mentioning his BYU fandom or religion.
No offense taken at all.
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
I like what he said. I still believe in the values he stated in the speech, which used to be Republican values.
Conservative values are good - they are constitutional and law abiding.

The problem with Flake is, he tried to paint himself a victim. A victim of what? As I posted, his constituents supported him at 18%. That is not Trump's fault. That is Flake not keeping promises to his constituents back home - and they have rejected him.

Isn't it interesting that the liberal left loved Flake's speech? When the liberal MSM gushed over Flake's speech, that my good man is a huge red flag.
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
The values of Trump's GOP are replacing those with anger, xenophobia and isolationism. You can have that garbage if you want.
That is hogwash. I agree there is anger at 8 years of lawless presidential behavior, hostile and divisive rhetoric from the White House, lying to the American people about a secure border, stopping and eliminating ISIS (didn't happen in 3 years of Obama feigning to want to stop ISIS. Trump get is done in 7 months.), Obama's fake efforts to eliminate radical Islamic threats (which Obama will not call radical Islamic threats), and using the IRS to crush political opposition (1st time done in 200+ years of American history).

Isolationism? I have never hear Trump or any member of his administration admonish isolationism. To recognize that Obama put foreign government interests before American interests, and that of foreign industries, that is not isolationism. Trump recognizes that foreign governments have exploit us and strip our middle class of critical funds and redistribute those American monies around the globe. What's isolationist about wanting to put American tax payers 1st?

Xenophobia? That's liberal MSM propaganda. Hogwash. Recognizing that the world has evil people that are intent on entering the USA and harming innocent American citizens is honest and wise. No other country allows the legal immigration we do, and ignores the illegal that we have and pretends it doesn't exist. Nothing wrong with protecting our sovereign borders and American citizens safety. That use to be a GOP value.

I've actually held a man in my arms that was shot in the chest multiple times by 3 illegals who had just robbed a small mom and pop grocery store. He begged me to save his life as he bled to death internally. I tried to plug the holes and keep him alive. I was not successful. He left a wife and 3 children behind. There is nothing wrong with keeping illegal criminals out of our country. American citizens safety is a priority. To paint it as racist, or xenophobic, is horribly dishonest.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:15 pm
by BroncoBot
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
BroncoBot wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:32 am
BlueK wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:26 pm
GREAT speech by fellow Cougar and LDS Senator Jeff Flake today. Hit the nail on the head about everything that's wrong with the republicans today.
The "fellow cougar and LDS senator" is one of my least favorite angles ever. Haven't listened to Flake's speech yet, but I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt because he goes to church.
LDS people seem very willing to accept the views of any politician/celebrity who attends church with them.
Just like Americans seem so ready to listen and pander to whatever garbage hollywood celebs have to say.
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend by mentioning his BYU fandom or religion.
None taken.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:07 pm
by imuakahuku
Ddawg wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:28 pm
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend by mentioning his BYU fandom or religion.
No offense taken at all.
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
I like what he said. I still believe in the values he stated in the speech, which used to be Republican values.
Conservative values are good - they are constitutional and law abiding.

The problem with Flake is, he tried to paint himself a victim. A victim of what? As I posted, his constituents supported him at 18%. That is not Trump's fault. That is Flake not keeping promises to his constituents back home - and they have rejected him.

Isn't it interesting that the liberal left loved Flake's speech? When the liberal MSM gushed over Flake's speech, that my good man is a huge red flag.
BlueK wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:54 pm
The values of Trump's GOP are replacing those with anger, xenophobia and isolationism. You can have that garbage if you want.
That is hogwash. I agree there is anger at 8 years of lawless presidential behavior, hostile and divisive rhetoric from the White House, lying to the American people about a secure border, stopping and eliminating ISIS (didn't happen in 3 years of Obama feigning to want to stop ISIS. Trump get is done in 7 months.), Obama's fake efforts to eliminate radical Islamic threats (which Obama will not call radical Islamic threats), and using the IRS to crush political opposition (1st time done in 200+ years of American history).

Isolationism? I have never hear Trump or any member of his administration admonish isolationism. To recognize that Obama put foreign government interests before American interests, and that of foreign industries, that is not isolationism. Trump recognizes that foreign governments have exploit us and strip our middle class of critical funds and redistribute those American monies around the globe. What's isolationist about wanting to put American tax payers 1st?

Xenophobia? That's liberal MSM propaganda. Hogwash. Recognizing that the world has evil people that are intent on entering the USA and harming innocent American citizens is honest and wise. No other country allows the legal immigration we do, and ignores the illegal that we have and pretends it doesn't exist. Nothing wrong with protecting our sovereign borders and American citizens safety. That use to be a GOP value.

I've actually held a man in my arms that was shot in the chest multiple times by 3 illegals who had just robbed a small mom and pop grocery store. He begged me to save his life as he bled to death internally. I tried to plug the holes and keep him alive. I was not successful. He left a wife and 3 children behind. There is nothing wrong with keeping illegal criminals out of our country. American citizens safety is a priority. To paint it as racist, or xenophobic, is horribly dishonest.
I agree with this 100%.

I do find it odd that everyone complaining about Trump is because of his "tweets" and how "abrasive" he is when speaking about the left to the media. Do people realize how much he has had done? Even with all the RINOs in Congress he has gotten an awful lot done. Research what has happened at the EPA and the DOE. MASSIVE changes that are leading to so much good (includes trillions of dollars that will be saved by businesses over the next 10 years). Way more than any modern president including my favorite, Ronnie. Did you see the apology by the IRS? Did you know that a settlement with those groups is now taking place which should get those conservative groups into a good place and make them more powerful for effecting good? I wanted Cruz but I see no logic in jumping on Trump and frustrating his efforts. He is running the country like a die hard conservative. If the RINOs would get on board this country could be returned to its glory. So if you want to jump on anyone start calling your congressmen and tell them to grow a pair and support Trump. They are who are protecting Obamacare, they are bending to the left at every turn, look at the tax bill. It includes an increase in taxes on the rich "to pay for the cuts". What a joke! They should be decreasing the Fed Gov but they won't. I doubt Cruz would have been as effective as Trump. He was hated by all the RINOs and so he probably would have caved in to them after he got elected. Also, they can't bully Trump so he is going to do what he will do which so far has benefited Americans more than ever before.
As for Flake, unfortunately he showed very bad form by doing what he did. He had a terrible, dishonest mentor (I'm looking at you McCain). He gave in to the "dark side (establishment)" and became a RINO. He should have kept his mouth shut (it is considered unacceptable to bad mouth the President in the senate pit). Instead he attacked Trump and harmed the conservative movement. Jeff, just go out quietly. You are embarrassing yourself while doing nothing to move the conservative movement forward.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:04 pm
by BroncoBot
imuakahuku wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:07 pm
They are who are protecting Obamacare, they are bending to the left at every turn, look at the tax bill. It includes an increase in taxes on the rich "to pay for the cuts". What a joke! They should be decreasing the Fed Gov but they won't. I doubt Cruz would have been as effective as Trump. He was hated by all the RINOs and so he probably would have caved in to them after he got elected. Also, they can't bully Trump so he is going to do what he will do which so far has benefited Americans more than ever before.
Totally agree. Trump has got a ton done for businesses and Americans in general. His cat and mouse twitter game is awesome. He's the master of deflection and getting stuff done while people are complaining about how "mean" he is.

Republicans, get behind trump! He's the only president I can recall (too young to appreciate Reagan) that has actually wanted to put America in a better place and had a plan to do it. Clinton, Bushes, Obama all spoke big things and did jack squat (except pad their pockets). I don't appreciate the way he approaches the office of president, but he's getting some stuff moving in the right direction. This country was TOAST after the bushes and obama. Sinking fast. Trump has given me hope that we won't turn into another france or England.

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:43 pm
by snoscythe

Re: Democratic Party = The True Fascists

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 am
by Ddawg
Good video post Sno. Everyone should watch it. I've said for years that Obama was a Fascist. He was and is. The Dem party today is simply a socialist party that uses the govt. to control business and the people. The Dem's use a powerful central govt to pass invasive/over-reaching laws, then take money from businesses and citizens thru endless tax hikes and dole out the services. All the while promising "fairness." It's all about marketing "being fair" while constructing a fascist socialist structure.