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Re: right wing violence

Post by byufan4ever » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:08 pm

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Nazis stating how pleased they were by Trump's under-reactive statements tells Americans all they need to know. Trump is an unmitigated disaster for this nation. The Republican party should be ashamed of themselves.
I am by no means a big Trump fan, but I think this is a very weak argument. I was also never for the "blame everything on Obama." There are several black groups that have come out in support of Trump's original statement.
Rev. Derek McCoy, executive vice president for the Center of Urban Renewal and Education, was among clergy who said claims by liberals and mainstream media that Trump has fostered a spirit of racism miss the point entirely.

“One thing you need to understand: You are saying that the president is the instigator, and I think that is absolutely wrong. No, it is not disingenuous,” McCoy said.

Some of those who gathered with McCoy at a National Press Club event said the problem is not the president but the media.

“Don’t make our commander in chief a villain when in actuality it is more the villainess (sic) of the media in terms of making something where nothing is,” political activist Corrogan Vaughn said.

Activist Star Parker, who founded CURE, said Trump’s initial statement condemning violence on both ends of the political spectrum was on target.
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Re: right wing violence

Post by Mars » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 pm

I also thought Obama gave a free pass to criminals and cop-killers, just like Trump is to White supremacists.
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Re: right wing violence

Post by BroncoBot » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:21 am

Mars wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 pm
I also thought Obama gave a free pass to criminals and cop-killers, just like Trump is to White supremacists.
Agreed. Would be nice to see a president lay the smack down, on both sides.

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Re: right wing violence

Post by jvquarterback » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:17 am

Mars wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:09 pm
I also thought Obama gave a free pass to criminals and cop-killers, just like Trump is to White supremacists.
Explain. Did one of them pardon someone and I missed it?

Just because someone explains the motives of others, like Obama and Trump have done does not mean they are giving them a free pass.

byufan4ever's data should indicate that these things are hardly a blip on the radar, yet the whole country is in an uproar over it. 3 million deaths in the middle east since 1991, and a couple million more before that due to US meddling in the middle east and you hardly hear about it. One death in Missouri or Virginia and there isn't anything else to talk about. It's madness.

We have 10,000 drunk driving death in a year and the only thing anyone says to the perpetrator is come play for our football team even though what you've done puts people at more risk than any jihadi, white supremacist, or occupy wall street thug.

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Re: right wing violence

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Post by SpiffCoug » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:39 pm

Here's a great Facebook post by Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE).

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Post by imuakahuku » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:51 am

Sorry, but White Supremacists are LEFT not right wing. Charlottesville was not Left vs Right. It was Left vs. Left plain and simple. The Left was great at leading people along in this. Remember when they called the rich white republicans White Nationalist because they were not on board with Globalism and favor national borders. Then they started to call white supremacists white nationalists too. They are not the same. The right has almost no violence on its side. It isn't even close. So please do not say that there is plenty of blame to go around. Most, almost all the blame is on the Left. Because if they don't get their way they riot. And in many cases they riot anyway.

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Re: right wing violence

Post by imuakahuku » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:59 pm

byufan4ever wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:42 am
I use this site for getting raw data on terrorist attacks in the US:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html

It breaks it down by group, which I suppose could be open to interpretation, but I find this very interesting. Here is a breakdown of the three major groups, Islam, Left, and Right, using three different periods (this data is updated through 8/13/17):

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First, there's definitely plenty of blame to go around. Second, it dispels the notion that most domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims. Even looking at just this decade they have committed the most terrorist acts and killed and injured the most people.
Sorry but that is bad data. The KKK is LEFT WING. Lincoln was not shot by a right wing republican. Lincoln was a republican contrary to what most media outlets try to lead people to understand. And all the KKK acts of violence listed in that little graphic and attributed to the Right, again KKK - Military arm of the democrap party (did the p on purpose!). All the civil right violations from years ago were all perpetrated by the Left. The NAACP was founded by republicans. A whole lot of (intentional) mistakes on that report.
BTW NAZIs are Left wing also. Sick of them reporting on "right wing skinheads" or the right wing Nazi party of Hitler. Neither existed because they are both Left wing. (National Socialist German Workers' Party in English). Socialism is a Left wing ideology.
BTW the beltway shooters were Islamic. It also lists a lot of "terrorist attacks thwarted but doesn't attribute them (most were Islamic). So those were not included either.
McVeigh was a communist and I think we know what side they are on (so another 169 moved over to the correct column)

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Re: right wing violence

Post by snoscythe » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:25 pm

So, if Trump is a neo-Nazi for not directly condemning neo-Nazis and instead generally condemning all associated with violence.....does that make Obama a radical-Islamic-terrorist?

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Re: right wing violence

Post by snoscythe » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:26 pm

imuakahuku wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:59 pm
The KKK is LEFT WING.
Antifa vs. the KKK is basically the violent arm of the DNC 2017 fighting the violent arm of the DNC from 100+ years ago.

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