Yeah - No More ISIL

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Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby Ddawg » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:34 pm

Yeah! Trump officially orders - call ISIS - "ISIS." No more ISIL. Finally. 8)

"Trump’s Defense Department to Military: Say ‘ISIS,’ not ‘ISIL’"
The Defense Department now officially refers to its primary foe in Iraq and Syria as "ISIS," according to a memo the Pentagon issued earlier this month.

"The Defense Department will use the term Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, when referring to this threat," Defense Department Executive Secretary Michael Bruhn wrote in a Feb. 13 memo obtained by U.S. News and sent to each of the military departments and leaders within the Pentagon.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... s-not-isil



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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby SpiffCoug » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:56 pm

Let's be honest, there were two reasons why the Obama administration used "ISIL". The first was to sound smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. The other was the administration was not fond of Israel and the Levant area encompasses Israel, so it was another way to take a swipe at one of our allies.


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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby imuakahuku » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:27 am

SpiffCoug wrote:Let's be honest, there were two reasons why the Obama administration used "ISIL". The first was to sound smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. The other was the administration was not fond of Israel and the Levant area encompasses Israel, so it was another way to take a swipe at one of our allies.


People in the Mideast took it as Israel no longer existing. It was more than a swipe. It was an acceptance of Israel being wiped out. Who are the NAZI's again?
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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby jvquarterback » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:40 pm

SpiffCoug wrote:Let's be honest, there were two reasons why the Obama administration used "ISIL". The first was to sound smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. The other was the administration was not fond of Israel and the Levant area encompasses Israel, so it was another way to take a swipe at one of our allies.


imuakahuku wrote:People in the Mideast took it as Israel no longer existing. It was more than a swipe. It was an acceptance of Israel being wiped out. Who are the NAZI's again?
Quinn's law "if you want to know what a liberal is up to just listen to what they claim about the other side".


If you want to find present day Nazis I'd invite you to tour an Israeli settlement in Hebron. You'll find plenty. Not on the side you think though. Obama had plenty of reasons to take a swipe at one of our "allies" though I think you're reading too much into this.

The Israelis are just a another bunch of moochers, the biggest bunch in the world in fact. Hopefully the Donald follows through with his promise to make them pay for the protection the US provides or at least stops stealing our money to give them $4B per year.


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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby Ddawg » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:03 pm

jvquarterback wrote:The Israelis are just a another bunch of moochers, the biggest bunch in the world in fact. Hopefully the Donald follows through with his promise to make them pay for the protection the US provides or at least stops stealing our money to give them $4B per year.


Israeli's are the biggest bunch of moochers in the world? Here's how U.S. foreign aid breaks down - in the 2016 budget.

The U.S. budget was $4.15 trillion
Foreign aid was $42.4 billion

The $42.4 billion foreign aid broke down into:
$25.6 billion Economic and Development, and $16.8 billion Security (military)

The $16.8 billion in security assistance (military) breaks down into:
1. Afghanistan $3.67 billion
2. Israel $3.1 billion
3. Egypt $1.31 billion
4. Iraq $808 million
5. Pakistan $319 million
6. Jordan $367.6 million
7. Syria $313.5 million
8. Columbia $203.9
9. Mexico $85.6 million
10.Ukraine $70.8 million

In terms of foreign aid, Israel is actually the world's 2nd biggest moocher. Afghanistan is #1 moocher. Egypt is #3.



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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby jvquarterback » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:29 am

Ddawg wrote:1. Afghanistan $3.67 billion
2. Israel $3.1 billion
3. Egypt $1.31 billion
4. Iraq $808 million
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You're missing the denominator in your calculations. Divide by population and it isn't even close.


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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby Ddawg » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:39 am

jvquarterback wrote:
Ddawg wrote:1. Afghanistan $3.67 billion
2. Israel $3.1 billion
3. Egypt $1.31 billion
4. Iraq $808 million
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You're missing the denominator in your calculations. Divide by population and it isn't even close.


Ahhhhh. Sorry. I missed that point. So, when we helped Britain defeat Hitler in WWII, we determined how much financial aid we would give them based on population - and then we branded Winston Churchill and the Brit's #1 world class moochers. Got it. My bad.



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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby jvquarterback » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:17 am

Neither the British, nor the Israelis deserve a dime of our money. Foreign "aid" is the worst kind of government spending. It redistributes wealth from the middle class and poor of our country to the elites of others. The Israelis are moochers. Great big moochers.

The Israelis aren't the good guys here (and neither were the British for that matter). Thanks for the non sequitur though. Here's a better one: the British and the Israelis have attacked the US military during peacetime without provocation.

The non-Jewish American love affair with Israel has got to be the craziest thing in the world.


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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby Ddawg » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:52 pm

jvquarterback wrote:Neither the British, nor the Israelis deserve a dime of our money.

I think that is a different topic - "deserve" assistance is subjective. During WWII we gave aid to lots of different countries. Not just England, France, Russia and China - which are obvious. We gave aid to Turkey, Mexico, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Greece, Belgium, Norway, Poland, Peru, Cuba, etc. About 36 countries total.

The reason given for this assistance? Officially, the aid was considered and Act to Promote the Defense of the United States. Whether anyone thinks it has value or actually works is always up to debate.

jvquarterback wrote:Foreign "aid" is the worst kind of government spending. It redistributes wealth from the middle class and poor of our country to the elites of others.

Actually, I think the biggest waste of government spending was the $387,000 spent on studying Swedish massages on rabbits and the $171,000 spent studying the gambling habits of monkeys. But then again, some folks would disagree.

jvquarterback wrote:The Israelis are moochers. Great big moochers.

Subjective. There are about 196 countries in the world. About 140 of them receive aid from the U.S. Basically, throw a dart at the map of the world, hit a country, and you have 71% chance of hitting a country we give aid to. Yeah, our foreign aid is out of control. Basically, the entire world, every country are moochers. Everyone is greedy and has their hand out for money from the Uncle Sam, and we are too willing to hand it out. Yep.



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Re: Yeah - No More ISIL

Postby jvquarterback » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:10 pm

Ddawg wrote:
jvquarterback wrote:The Israelis are moochers. Great big moochers.

Subjective. There are about 196 countries in the world. About 140 of them receive aid from the U.S. Basically, throw a dart at the map of the world, hit a country, and you have 71% chance of hitting a country we give aid to. Yeah, our foreign aid is out of control. Basically, the entire world, every country are moochers. Everyone is greedy and has their hand out for money from the Uncle Sam, and we are too willing to hand it out. Yep.


Subjective? I don't think you know what that word means. Per capita foreign "aid" to Israel dwarfs any other country. The Israelis are the biggest moochers off America in the world and it isn't even close.

Let's see if the Donald has it in him to fulfill his campaign promise to make other countries (in this case Israel) pay for the protection the US provides. Not likely I think.


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