Remember when Trump was going to deport all illegals & build a wall?

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Re: Remember when Trump was going to deport all illegals & build a wall?

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Schmoe wrote:
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KingCoug wrote:I've never been sold on Trump but I don't understand the assertion that any other GOP candidate would be beating Hillary right now when they couldn't even win their own primary.
Yep.
I guess it's something about the non-Trumpers being divided between other candidates, but making up a larger number of total republicans. Also, because Trump continues to be soft on Hillary while he was (and still is) hard on other republican candidates.
It also helps when you get $2 billion in free media coverage and you have the largest "conservative" news outlet openly advising one candidate and essentially campaigning for him.


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KingCoug wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
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KingCoug wrote:I've never been sold on Trump but I don't understand the assertion that any other GOP candidate would be beating Hillary right now when they couldn't even win their own primary.
Yep.
I guess it's something about the non-Trumpers being divided between other candidates, but making up a larger number of total republicans. Also, because Trump continues to be soft on Hillary while he was (and still is) hard on other republican candidates.
How is Trump being soft on Hillary? He criticizes her (rightfully so) every chance he gets.
No he doesn't. He'd rather speculate about the love life of Mika Bryzenski and Joe Scarborough than attack HRC. He said last week that we probably need to give the benefit of the doubt to the Clinton Foundation until we really know what happened there.

He walks back everything. He takes two steps forward and then three steps back.


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snoscythe wrote:You could start a thread like this on any present position Trump stakes out--"Remember when Trump" staunchly took the opposite position he takes today?

- gun control
- immigration
- abortion
- Supreme Court nominees
- et cetera ad naseum
so basically, he's the same as every other Republican nomination for the past 20 years.


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BroncoBot wrote:
snoscythe wrote:You could start a thread like this on any present position Trump stakes out--"Remember when Trump" staunchly took the opposite position he takes today?

- gun control
- immigration
- abortion
- Supreme Court nominees
- et cetera ad naseum
so basically, he's the same as every other Republican nomination for the past 20 years.
Yep, so Republican voters decided to nominate the one guy who couldn't beat the most corrupt and dishonest person to ever run for president.

There's two parties in America, the Destructive party and the Stupid party.


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It's pretty much impossible to defend Trump without changing the subject to talk about Hillary.


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BlueK wrote:It's pretty much impossible to defend Trump without changing the subject to talk about Hillary.
It's one of the very few positives about him: he's not Hillary.


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KingCoug wrote:
Schmoe wrote:
nuk13 wrote:
KingCoug wrote:I've never been sold on Trump but I don't understand the assertion that any other GOP candidate would be beating Hillary right now when they couldn't even win their own primary.
Yep.
I guess it's something about the non-Trumpers being divided between other candidates, but making up a larger number of total republicans. Also, because Trump continues to be soft on Hillary while he was (and still is) hard on other republican candidates.
How is Trump being soft on Hillary? He criticizes her (rightfully so) every chance he gets.
He does, but he also gets really easily distracted and unfocused.


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SpiffCoug wrote:
BroncoBot wrote:
snoscythe wrote:You could start a thread like this on any present position Trump stakes out--"Remember when Trump" staunchly took the opposite position he takes today?

- gun control
- immigration
- abortion
- Supreme Court nominees
- et cetera ad naseum
so basically, he's the same as every other Republican nomination for the past 20 years.
Yep, so Republican voters decided to nominate the one guy who couldn't beat the most corrupt and dishonest person to ever run for president.

There's two parties in America, the Destructive party and the Stupid party.
As I mentioned elsewhere, all those other guys couldn't even carry their own states. They were all a bunch of washed up has beens who have the distinguished honor of being considered "politicians". American/Republican voters apparently have had enough of these candidates and the GOP decided to create the trump phenomenon.


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The majority of GOP voters also rejected Trump. But due to stupid winner-take-all rules he is the nominee. He's the worst GOP nominee in a very long time. He also has the lowest amount of support from the GOP voters.

2016, Trump, 44.95% of popular vote
2012, Romney, 52.1%
2008, McCain, 46.7%
2000, Bush, 62.0%
1996, Dole, 58.8%
1988, Bush, 67.9%
1980, Reagan, 59.8%
1976, Ford, 53.5%
1968, Nixon, 37.5% (Reagan had 37.9%)


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SpiffCoug wrote:The majority of GOP voters also rejected Trump. But due to stupid winner-take-all rules he is the nominee. He's the worst GOP nominee in a very long time. He also has the lowest amount of support from the GOP voters.

2016, Trump, 44.95% of popular vote
2012, Romney, 52.1%
2008, McCain, 46.7%
2000, Bush, 62.0%
1996, Dole, 58.8%
1988, Bush, 67.9%
1980, Reagan, 59.8%
1976, Ford, 53.5%
1968, Nixon, 37.5% (Reagan had 37.9%)
Agreed. The GOP made their bed. Now they get to sleep in it. I dislike both parties equally.


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